From pm at debian.org  Thu Jan  1 02:55:23 2009
From: pm at debian.org (Paul Martin)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 11:55:23 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] libgps and speed/track
Message-ID: <20090101115515.GB6294@nowster.org.uk>

Depending on the order of the NMEA sentences from the receiver, we can
receive NaNs back from libgps. The following patch ignores the information
if it's not flagged as valid.

It might be a good idea to apply similar checking to the other values we get
back from libgpsd.

-- 
Paul Martin <pm at debian.org>
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From pm at debian.org  Fri Jan  2 05:06:15 2009
From: pm at debian.org (Paul Martin)
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 14:06:15 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Autosave filenames
Message-ID: <20090102140609.GA19547@nowster.org.uk>

The following allows for slightly more readable autosave filenames.

-- 
Paul Martin <pm at debian.org>
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From chris123 at magma.ca  Fri Jan  2 14:31:38 2009
From: chris123 at magma.ca (Chris h)
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 23:31:38 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Travel Route Planning
Message-ID: <200901021831.30691.chris123@magma.ca>

Greets:

Got this one from the ozi-explorer list

ref: http://www.herofish.com/2008/12/route-creation-in-oziexplorer/

Grab the bookmarklet from the source site, export the track and waypoints from 
google maps, save as a .gpx file and load it into gpsdrive. Works llke a 
charm. 

booklmarklet (for firefox) ref:
http://www.elsewhere.org/journal/gmaptogpx/

When you combine this with the google maps trick you have a very nice system 
for driving 

-- 
/ch

From info at 4x4falcon.com  Fri Jan  2 17:27:34 2009
From: info at 4x4falcon.com (info at 4x4falcon.com)
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:27:34 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Control Q patch
Message-ID: <528df11349cf009e4f6608d891753cd1.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>

Hi All,

Attached is a patch so that Ctrl+Q exits the program.

Regards
Ross
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From onymouse at garlic.com  Fri Jan  2 18:49:05 2009
From: onymouse at garlic.com (jd)
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 03:49:05 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] SuSE's gpsdrive-2.10pre4-93.1 removed map_koord.txt
Message-ID: <495E66FB.5070702@garlic.com>

Just a heads up: installing/updating to SuSE's gpsdrive-2.10pre4-93.1 
will remove/replace your existing map_koord.txt file.

Back it up early and often.

I forgot to prevent gpsdrive from updating from 2.09something, which 
is how it got wiped. (the list of broken and crippled SuSE updates is 
  difficult to keep up with.)

--
jd


From info at 4x4falcon.com  Fri Jan  2 20:29:37 2009
From: info at 4x4falcon.com (info at 4x4falcon.com)
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 05:29:37 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Explore mode keyboard toggle
Message-ID: <0254703850b209f01f649d7239cfeaed.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>

Hi All,

Attached patch adds explore mode toggle via keyboard.  E is the key.

Also updates the help display to include this and ctrl-q

Regards
Ross
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From pm at debian.org  Mon Jan  5 00:37:09 2009
From: pm at debian.org (Paul Martin)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:37:09 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Miles per hour
Message-ID: <20090105093703.GD23598@nowster.org.uk>

One little bug in the new code that uses libgps... it always returns speeds
in kph even when you're set to use miles. I had a little surprise yesterday
when I first used it in for real since the changes.

-- 
Paul Martin <pm at debian.org>
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From newbury at mandamus.org  Mon Jan  5 05:59:58 2009
From: newbury at mandamus.org (R. G. Newbury)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:59:58 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Miles per hour
In-Reply-To: <20090105093703.GD23598@nowster.org.uk>
References: <20090105093703.GD23598@nowster.org.uk>
Message-ID: <49622080.4020902@mandamus.org>

Paul Martin wrote:
> One little bug in the new code that uses libgps... it always returns speeds
> in kph even when you're set to use miles. I had a little surprise yesterday
> when I first used it in for real since the changes.

It really needs a setting for the unit conversion and conversions from 
gps metres per second to:

direct metres per second
kilometres per hour
miles per hour
nautical miles per hour
feet per second

Geoff



From pm at debian.org  Mon Jan  5 06:43:40 2009
From: pm at debian.org (Paul Martin)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:43:40 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Miles per hour
In-Reply-To: <49622080.4020902@mandamus.org>
References: <20090105093703.GD23598@nowster.org.uk>
	<49622080.4020902@mandamus.org>
Message-ID: <20090105154336.GD9466@nowster.org.uk>

On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 10:00:16AM -0500, R. G. Newbury wrote:
> Paul Martin wrote:
>> One little bug in the new code that uses libgps... it always returns speeds
>> in kph even when you're set to use miles. I had a little surprise yesterday
>> when I first used it in for real since the changes.
>
> It really needs a setting for the unit conversion and conversions from  
> gps metres per second to:
>
> direct metres per second
> kilometres per hour
> miles per hour
> nautical miles per hour
> feet per second

kph, mph and knots (nautical mph) are already supported by gpsdrive. The
milesconv variable contains the current conversion ratio from kph to the
unit in use. It's done here in src/settings.c:

static gint
setdistmode_cb (GtkWidget *widget)
{
        gint selection;

        selection = gtk_combo_box_get_active (GTK_COMBO_BOX (widget));

        switch (selection)
        {
                case DIST_MILES:
                        milesconv = KM2MILES;
                        local_config.distmode = DIST_MILES;
                        break;
                case DIST_METRIC:
                        milesconv = 1.0;
                        local_config.distmode = DIST_METRIC;
                        break;
                case DIST_NAUTIC:
                        milesconv = KM2NAUTIC;
                        local_config.distmode = DIST_NAUTIC;
                        break;
        }

        current.needtosave = TRUE;

        if (mydebug >10)
                fprintf (stderr, "Setting distance format to %d %%.\n",
                        local_config.distmode);

        return TRUE;
}




-- 
Paul Martin <pm at debian.org>

From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Mon Jan  5 11:25:29 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:25:29 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Miles per hour
In-Reply-To: <20090105093703.GD23598@nowster.org.uk>
References: <20090105093703.GD23598@nowster.org.uk>
Message-ID: <200901052125.31771.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Montag 05 Januar 2009 schrieb Paul Martin:
> One little bug in the new code that uses libgps... it always returns speeds
> in kph even when you're set to use miles. I had a little surprise yesterday
> when I first used it in for real since the changes.

hmm, yes, I had some other changes in my mind when I wrote this part.
I considered to change the gpsdrive code so that the variables always contain 
metric values, and that the conversion to something else is only done when 
needed for display. this should save some conversions during the 
calculations, I guess...

comments?

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From info at 4x4falcon.com  Mon Jan  5 18:03:22 2009
From: info at 4x4falcon.com (info at 4x4falcon.com)
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 03:03:22 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Building gpsdrive without Friendsd and kismet
Message-ID: <667d81db17f59060cac62f95aaee6c69.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>

Hi All,

I've been looking at the possibility of building gpsdrive without friends
and kismet (I don't use them).

So I went through all the files and commented out the relevant sections
and it then builds fine.

This is not ideal however so I've been trying to sus out how to do it
using cmake -DKISMET:boolean=0 etc.

So a couple of questions.

What's a suitable cmake -D to not compile kismet? as above? Likewise for
friendd.

Does this directive get passed through to the makefile?  ie will compiler
directives such as
 #IFDEF KISMET
 ...
 #ENDIF
be processed.


I assume I need to modify the CMakeFiles.txt in the src directory to
generate the appropriate makefiles?

TIA
Ross




From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Tue Jan  6 00:00:30 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:00:30 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Building gpsdrive without Friendsd and kismet
In-Reply-To: <667d81db17f59060cac62f95aaee6c69.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
References: <667d81db17f59060cac62f95aaee6c69.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
Message-ID: <200901061000.31312.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Dienstag 06 Januar 2009 schrieb info at 4x4falcon.com:
> Hi All,
>
> I've been looking at the possibility of building gpsdrive without friends
> and kismet (I don't use them).
>
> So I went through all the files and commented out the relevant sections
> and it then builds fine.
>
> This is not ideal however so I've been trying to sus out how to do it
> using cmake -DKISMET:boolean=0 etc.
>
> So a couple of questions.
>
> What's a suitable cmake -D to not compile kismet? as above? Likewise for
> friendd.
>
I would use the options WITH_KISMET and WITH_FRIENDSD
with default values ON.

you define the possible options and their default values inside 
DefineOptions.cmake

then you have to check those values and set the compiler directives in the 
relevant CMakeLists.txt

example:
if (WITH_KISMET)
  add_definitions(-DKISMET)
endif (WITH_KISMET)

the you can use the usual code:
>  #IFDEF KISMET
>  ...
>  #ENDIF
>

if you do those changes, please also updater the documentation.
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From joerg at ostertag.name  Tue Jan  6 01:28:59 2009
From: joerg at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (Tettnang))
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:28:59 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Building gpsdrive without Friendsd and kismet
In-Reply-To: <667d81db17f59060cac62f95aaee6c69.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
References: <667d81db17f59060cac62f95aaee6c69.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
Message-ID: <200901061128.51746.joerg@ostertag.name>


> I assume I need to modify the CMakeFiles.txt in the src directory to
> generate the appropriate makefiles?

As what I know relevant is:
	src/CMakeLists.txt 
	cmake/Modules/DefineCompilerFlags.cmake


-- 

J?rg

http://www.ostertag.name/

From info at 4x4falcon.com  Tue Jan  6 17:36:47 2009
From: info at 4x4falcon.com (info at 4x4falcon.com)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:36:47 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Building gpsdrive without Friendsd and kismet
In-Reply-To: <200901061000.31312.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
References: <667d81db17f59060cac62f95aaee6c69.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<200901061000.31312.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <07e2083a7b6e166f4ae99ffed4642e6a.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>

> I would use the options WITH_KISMET and WITH_FRIENDSD
> with default values ON.
>
> you define the possible options and their default values inside
> DefineOptions.cmake
>
> then you have to check those values and set the compiler directives in the
> relevant CMakeLists.txt
>
> example:
> if (WITH_KISMET)
>   add_definitions(-DKISMET)
> endif (WITH_KISMET)
>
> the you can use the usual code:
>>  #IFDEF KISMET
>>  ...
>>  #ENDIF
>>
>
> if you do those changes, please also updater the documentation.


Hi All,

Thanks for this.  Have it all working for friendsd.

Now one other question does the travelmode set from the Navigation pane of
configuration have any other use than with friends?  I can see no other
use.

Regards
Ross



From info at 4x4falcon.com  Tue Jan  6 18:21:46 2009
From: info at 4x4falcon.com (info at 4x4falcon.com)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:21:46 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Building gpsdrive without Friendsd and kismet
In-Reply-To: <200901061000.31312.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
References: <667d81db17f59060cac62f95aaee6c69.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<200901061000.31312.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <3f3da5108de3b1acd317651a513ee5ee.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>

Hi All,

Attached is patch for using options -DWITH_FRIENDSD AND -DWITH_KISMET with
cmake.

It defaults to on for both.

This allows you to build gpsdrive without friendsd and/or kismet support.

Regards
Ross
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From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Tue Jan  6 23:43:57 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:43:57 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Building gpsdrive without Friendsd and kismet
In-Reply-To: <07e2083a7b6e166f4ae99ffed4642e6a.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
References: <667d81db17f59060cac62f95aaee6c69.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<200901061000.31312.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<07e2083a7b6e166f4ae99ffed4642e6a.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
Message-ID: <200901070937.32561.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Mittwoch 07 Januar 2009 schrieb info at 4x4falcon.com:
> Hi All,
>
> Thanks for this.  Have it all working for friendsd.
>
fine!

> Now one other question does the travelmode set from the Navigation pane of
> configuration have any other use than with friends?  I can see no other
> use.
>
currently it only sets the icon that is used for the friends service.
but in the future it will also influence things like route calculation...


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From info at 4x4falcon.com  Wed Jan  7 00:54:10 2009
From: info at 4x4falcon.com (info at 4x4falcon.com)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 09:54:10 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Building gpsdrive without Friendsd and kismet
In-Reply-To: <200901070937.32561.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
References: <667d81db17f59060cac62f95aaee6c69.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<200901061000.31312.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<07e2083a7b6e166f4ae99ffed4642e6a.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<200901070937.32561.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <16e35d06113075a688e95686bff78bb9.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>

>> Now one other question does the travelmode set from the Navigation pane
>> of
>> configuration have any other use than with friends?  I can see no other
>> use.
>>
> currently it only sets the icon that is used for the friends service.
> but in the future it will also influence things like route calculation...


Ok.

Is anyone working on routing?



Regards
Ross



From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Wed Jan  7 01:12:42 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 10:12:42 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Building gpsdrive without Friendsd and kismet
In-Reply-To: <16e35d06113075a688e95686bff78bb9.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
References: <667d81db17f59060cac62f95aaee6c69.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<200901070937.32561.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<16e35d06113075a688e95686bff78bb9.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
Message-ID: <200901071112.48773.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Mittwoch 07 Januar 2009 schrieb info at 4x4falcon.com:
> >> Now one other question does the travelmode set from the Navigation pane
> >> of
> >> configuration have any other use than with friends?  I can see no other
> >> use.
> >
> > currently it only sets the icon that is used for the friends service.
> > but in the future it will also influence things like route calculation...
>
> Ok.
>
> Is anyone working on routing?
>
a lot of people are working on routing with osm data ;-)
the primary plan was, to wait until a good solution, which can be easily 
included into gpsdrive, is ready to be used.

but there is another, simpler approach:
we can connect to the api of openrouteservice for route calculation and use 
the results inside gpsdrive. I already had a short look on that, and it 
seems, that this can be implemented very easy. the only drawback is, that an 
online connection will be needed for this feature.

so, yes, we will have routing within the next few months.




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From chris123 at magma.ca  Wed Jan  7 01:22:33 2009
From: chris123 at magma.ca (Chris h)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 10:22:33 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Building gpsdrive without Friendsd and kismet
In-Reply-To: <200901071112.48773.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
References: <667d81db17f59060cac62f95aaee6c69.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<16e35d06113075a688e95686bff78bb9.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<200901071112.48773.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <200901070522.30287.chris123@magma.ca>

On Wednesday 07 January 2009 05:12:38 Guenther Meyer wrote:

A quick look at the site and at present it covers only parts of the EU or does 
the API offer more then the webservice.?

Best regards

-- 
/ch

From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Wed Jan  7 01:57:25 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 10:57:25 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Building gpsdrive without Friendsd and kismet
In-Reply-To: <200901070522.30287.chris123@magma.ca>
References: <667d81db17f59060cac62f95aaee6c69.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<200901071112.48773.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<200901070522.30287.chris123@magma.ca>
Message-ID: <200901071157.25137.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Mittwoch 07 Januar 2009 schrieb Chris h:
> On Wednesday 07 January 2009 05:12:38 Guenther Meyer wrote:
>
> A quick look at the site and at present it covers only parts of the EU or
> does the API offer more then the webservice.?
>
hmmm, I guess the api can't access more data than they provide on the 
website...
but as openstreetmap is a global project, routing could be done in other 
areas, too, as far as enough data is present.
so I think, they (or someone else) will expand this service some day...



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From info at 4x4falcon.com  Wed Jan  7 04:56:11 2009
From: info at 4x4falcon.com (info at 4x4falcon.com)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:56:11 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Building gpsdrive without Friendsd and kismet
In-Reply-To: <200901071112.48773.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
References: <667d81db17f59060cac62f95aaee6c69.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<200901070937.32561.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<16e35d06113075a688e95686bff78bb9.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<200901071112.48773.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <2e27fc5a48be3dfa034ecf942a77ee25.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>

> a lot of people are working on routing with osm data ;-)
> the primary plan was, to wait until a good solution, which can be easily
> included into gpsdrive, is ready to be used.
>
> but there is another, simpler approach:
> we can connect to the api of openrouteservice for route calculation and
> use
> the results inside gpsdrive. I already had a short look on that, and it
> seems, that this can be implemented very easy. the only drawback is, that
> an
> online connection will be needed for this feature.
>
> so, yes, we will have routing within the next few months.

Unfortunately this is very restrictive, no Australia (and many other
counrties), has to have internet connection.

So this got me looking at alternatives.

And what I found was gosmore.

It could be run from script activated from a button within gpsdrive and
using the CGI interface it could then return a gpx file which can be
loaded into gpsdrive.

I know it does not generate a gpx file but this could be built into the
script.

It's not ideal but is at least it's available offline and from what I've
tried it's quite fast.

Additionally maybe look at implementing the code from gosmore directly
into gpsdrive.

Also looked at the pyroute(lib/lib2) but still requires an internet
connection and very slow.

I'll have a play arround with it using the navigation.c and navigation.h
files with a button on the main window.

Regards
Ross



From sascha-ml-gis-gpsdrive at silbe.org  Wed Jan  7 06:08:34 2009
From: sascha-ml-gis-gpsdrive at silbe.org (Sascha Silbe)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:08:34 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Building gpsdrive without Friendsd and kismet
In-Reply-To: <2e27fc5a48be3dfa034ecf942a77ee25.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
References: <667d81db17f59060cac62f95aaee6c69.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<200901070937.32561.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<16e35d06113075a688e95686bff78bb9.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<200901071112.48773.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<2e27fc5a48be3dfa034ecf942a77ee25.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
Message-ID: <20090107150829.GB20988@twin.sascha.silbe.org>

On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 11:56:06PM +1000, info at 4x4falcon.com wrote:

> Additionally maybe look at implementing the code from gosmore directly
> into gpsdrive.
It might be better not to couple them too tightly, so alternatives to 
gosmore could be used as well.
Invoking an external program that gets input data (source/target 
location, options like fast/slow car) via stdin and hands back a GPX 
route (potentially containing driving instructions in the <desc> field) 
on stdout might be a good idea. The program could either exit after 
route calculation or wait for the next request (for fast route 
recalculation after a missed turn).
I'm doing it that way in my own programs, though more tightly coupled 
with OSM data (outputting way segments with OSM wayids, name/ref, length 
and ETT).

CU Sascha

-- 
http://sascha.silbe.org/
http://www.infra-silbe.de/
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From gpsdrive at ostertag.name  Wed Jan  7 11:30:45 2009
From: gpsdrive at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany))
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:30:45 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Building gpsdrive without Friendsd and kismet
In-Reply-To: <20090107150829.GB20988@twin.sascha.silbe.org>
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Message-ID: <200901072130.37188.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>

Hi,

In the long run I personally would love to see a solution close to 
mapnik(postgis). This way a user would only have to import osm data once and 
not twice: once for displaying and once for routing.
But for the first part we should stick with the solution easiest to implement.

-- 

Joerg

On Mittwoch 07 Januar 2009, Sascha Silbe wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 11:56:06PM +1000, info at 4x4falcon.com wrote:
> > Additionally maybe look at implementing the code from gosmore directly
> > into gpsdrive.
>
> It might be better not to couple them too tightly, so alternatives to
> gosmore could be used as well.
> Invoking an external program that gets input data (source/target
> location, options like fast/slow car) via stdin and hands back a GPX
> route (potentially containing driving instructions in the <desc> field)
> on stdout might be a good idea. The program could either exit after
> route calculation or wait for the next request (for fast route
> recalculation after a missed turn).
> I'm doing it that way in my own programs, though more tightly coupled
> with OSM data (outputting way segments with OSM wayids, name/ref, length
> and ETT).
>
> CU Sascha

From sascha-ml-gis-gpsdrive at silbe.org  Wed Jan  7 12:32:02 2009
From: sascha-ml-gis-gpsdrive at silbe.org (Sascha Silbe)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:32:02 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Building gpsdrive without Friendsd and kismet
In-Reply-To: <200901072130.37188.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
References: <667d81db17f59060cac62f95aaee6c69.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<2e27fc5a48be3dfa034ecf942a77ee25.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<20090107150829.GB20988@twin.sascha.silbe.org>
	<200901072130.37188.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
Message-ID: <20090107213156.GD20988@twin.sascha.silbe.org>

On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 09:30:36PM +0100, Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive 
Tettnang/Germany) wrote:

> In the long run I personally would love to see a solution close to 
> mapnik(postgis). This way a user would only have to import osm data 
> once and not twice: once for displaying and once for routing.
Both renderers and routers usually preprocess their data because 
operating on the raw data at runtime is inefficient. So there'll be at 
least two databases (though possibly managed by the same DBMS) anyway.
The import script could handle populating both databases in a single 
run, so it wouldn't make much of a difference (except for HD space) to 
the user.

CU Sascha

-- 
http://sascha.silbe.org/
http://www.infra-silbe.de/
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From info at 4x4falcon.com  Wed Jan  7 13:41:59 2009
From: info at 4x4falcon.com (info at 4x4falcon.com)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:41:59 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Building gpsdrive without Friendsd and kismet
In-Reply-To: <20090107150829.GB20988@twin.sascha.silbe.org>
References: <667d81db17f59060cac62f95aaee6c69.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<200901070937.32561.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<16e35d06113075a688e95686bff78bb9.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<200901071112.48773.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<2e27fc5a48be3dfa034ecf942a77ee25.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<20090107150829.GB20988@twin.sascha.silbe.org>
Message-ID: <021496071f347e147c1da10623a75bd3.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>

> On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 11:56:06PM +1000, info at 4x4falcon.com wrote:
>
>> Additionally maybe look at implementing the code from gosmore directly
>> into gpsdrive.
> It might be better not to couple them too tightly, so alternatives to
> gosmore could be used as well.
> Invoking an external program that gets input data (source/target
> location, options like fast/slow car) via stdin and hands back a GPX
> route (potentially containing driving instructions in the <desc> field)
> on stdout might be a good idea. The program could either exit after
> route calculation or wait for the next request (for fast route
> recalculation after a missed turn).
> I'm doing it that way in my own programs, though more tightly coupled
> with OSM data (outputting way segments with OSM wayids, name/ref, length
> and ETT).
>
> CU Sascha

I was actually thinking more along the lines of plugins so that multiple
types of routers could be added.

On the Navigation settings page (or maybe a new page) the router you wish
to use can be selected from those you have installed.

I was looking at using gosmore initially as it gives most of what is
needed already and it uses the osm data although preprocessed.  I think it
can be setup quickly to give a reasonable solution to routing without
being online.

Currently I only update the osm data for gpsdrive on a monthly basis
(Australia only) and it would only be a matter of incorporating the
preprocessing into that update.

Cheers
Ross



From info at 4x4falcon.com  Wed Jan  7 13:44:32 2009
From: info at 4x4falcon.com (info at 4x4falcon.com)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:44:32 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Building gpsdrive without Friendsd and kismet
In-Reply-To: <200901072130.37188.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
References: <667d81db17f59060cac62f95aaee6c69.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<2e27fc5a48be3dfa034ecf942a77ee25.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<20090107150829.GB20988@twin.sascha.silbe.org>
	<200901072130.37188.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
Message-ID: <c4ad7e6668e9b09e1cb2ad7fca19ca71.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>

> Hi,
>
> In the long run I personally would love to see a solution close to
> mapnik(postgis). This way a user would only have to import osm data once
> and
> not twice: once for displaying and once for routing.
> But for the first part we should stick with the solution easiest to
> implement.
>
> --
>
> Joerg


Hi,

My thoughts exactly.

That's why it appears to me that gosmore gives us routing without having
to be connected to the internet.

Which means on the fly re-routing unlike any solution which has to have
internet connection.

Cheers
Ross



From info at 4x4falcon.com  Wed Jan  7 13:53:12 2009
From: info at 4x4falcon.com (info at 4x4falcon.com)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:53:12 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Building gpsdrive without Friendsd and kismet
In-Reply-To: <20090107213156.GD20988@twin.sascha.silbe.org>
References: <667d81db17f59060cac62f95aaee6c69.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<2e27fc5a48be3dfa034ecf942a77ee25.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<20090107150829.GB20988@twin.sascha.silbe.org>
	<200901072130.37188.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
	<20090107213156.GD20988@twin.sascha.silbe.org>
Message-ID: <1f6dff75342038456c37bebfc32210e7.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>

> The import script could handle populating both databases in a single
> run, so it wouldn't make much of a difference (except for HD space) to
> the user.
>
> CU Sascha
>
> --
> http://sascha.silbe.org/
> http://www.infra-silbe.de/
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Just as an indication data for Australia:

as osm file 54mb
as gosmore file 99mb

So no real penalty for hdd space. (My vehiclePC has 160gb hdd)

Time to process gosmore.pak file 3minutes.

Cheers
Ross



From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Wed Jan  7 14:11:08 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:11:08 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Building gpsdrive without Friendsd and kismet
In-Reply-To: <20090107150829.GB20988@twin.sascha.silbe.org>
References: <667d81db17f59060cac62f95aaee6c69.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<2e27fc5a48be3dfa034ecf942a77ee25.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<20090107150829.GB20988@twin.sascha.silbe.org>
Message-ID: <200901080000.57943.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Mittwoch 07 Januar 2009 schrieb Sascha Silbe:
> On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 11:56:06PM +1000, info at 4x4falcon.com wrote:
> > Additionally maybe look at implementing the code from gosmore directly
> > into gpsdrive.
>
> It might be better not to couple them too tightly, so alternatives to
> gosmore could be used as well.
we should divide the code in several parts:

navigation.c holds the generic routing related functions, that always stay the 
same, no matter what actually does the routing work.

other modules, like navigation_gosmore.c hold the specific functions which are 
only called by functions in navigation.c

> Invoking an external program that gets input data (source/target
> location, options like fast/slow car) via stdin and hands back a GPX
> route (potentially containing driving instructions in the <desc> field)
> on stdout might be a good idea. The program could either exit after
> route calculation or wait for the next request (for fast route
> recalculation after a missed turn).
>
I'm not a friend of calling external binaries. 
but if it works, this may be better than nothing.


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From info at 4x4falcon.com  Wed Jan  7 14:44:26 2009
From: info at 4x4falcon.com (info at 4x4falcon.com)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:44:26 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Building gpsdrive without Friendsd and kismet
In-Reply-To: <200901080000.57943.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
References: <667d81db17f59060cac62f95aaee6c69.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<2e27fc5a48be3dfa034ecf942a77ee25.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
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Message-ID: <bd7b3b5514344fbaaf97e04ec204e002.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>

> Am Mittwoch 07 Januar 2009 schrieb Sascha Silbe:
>> On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 11:56:06PM +1000, info at 4x4falcon.com wrote:
>> > Additionally maybe look at implementing the code from gosmore directly
>> > into gpsdrive.
>>
>> It might be better not to couple them too tightly, so alternatives to
>> gosmore could be used as well.
> we should divide the code in several parts:
>
> navigation.c holds the generic routing related functions, that always stay
> the
> same, no matter what actually does the routing work.
>
> other modules, like navigation_gosmore.c hold the specific functions which
> are
> only called by functions in navigation.c
>

Could not have put it better myself.

I would envisage the navigation_gosmore etc to be compiled to a separate
file and put into a separate directory (/usr/share/gpsdrive/plugins) and
only loaded as required.

Cheers
Ross



From D.Bannon at vpac.org  Wed Jan  7 23:11:10 2009
From: D.Bannon at vpac.org (David Bannon)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 08:11:10 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] SVN Deb package
In-Reply-To: <200812230737.25125.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
References: <20081218100051.GA31513@nowster.org.uk>
	<200812221932.43108.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<20081222194014.GB4050@nowster.org.uk>
	<200812230737.25125.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <1231402260.12664.11.camel@dbannon-laptop>


Hi folks.

Just installed the current deb package on Kubuntu 8.10 and am seeing
some crashes. Strace tells me its trying to
open /usr/share/mapnik/world_boundaries/world_boundaries_m.shp
and failing. Dump below ...

I have mapnik-util, python-mapnik, mapnik-plugins, libmapnik0.5 and
libmapnik installed. All are version 0.5.1-2ubuntu1. Looks like it might
be some mapnik data I need but what ? 

I used to have 2.10pre6 and it worked fine but wow, seems a lot of
additions things are now needed to get this fabulous application
working. A lot ....

Any suggestions ?

here is the tail end of strace dump -

open("/usr/share/icons/map-icons/classic.small/rendering/cliff.png", O_RDONLY) = 15
fstat64(15, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=26214, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb4fd4000
read(15, "\211PNG\r\n\32\n\0\0\0\rIHDR\0\0\0\17\0\0\0\4\10\6\0\0"..., 4096) = 4096
read(15, "\272\"\371\377@\17\372\0:\322\247\336\353\221\2418\347"..., 4096) = 4096
read(15, "B]\327a\0b\343zn\273s\244\335D\25D5~\337\17r(|\326\216"..., 4096) = 4096
read(15, "n\3620H\32\246\336\30]\212\372_\v_\177\206&k\260\307\10"..., 4096) = 4096
read(15, "\204\361%8\261yF\37c`\214\363}{\25C\10;+ at 03Ft\257\251\314"..., 4096) = 4096
read(15, "\7s\314\354\336j\217\335\352\272\357%Z\215[~_\313\257d"..., 4096) = 4096
read(15, "M\256Y\327q\246~\341\350[\273\34{\217y\213\274\243\256"..., 4096) = 1638
close(15)                               = 0
munmap(0xb4fd4000, 4096)                = 0
open("/usr/share/mapnik/world_boundaries/world_boundaries_m.shp", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
close(-1)                               = -1 EBADF (Bad file descriptor)
futex(0xb76190c8, 0x81 /* FUTEX_??? */, 2147483647) = 0
write(2, " got exception ... \n", 20 got exception ...
)   = 20
write(2, "terminate called after throwing "..., 48terminate called after throwing an instance of ') = 48
write(2, "std::ios_base::failure", 22std::ios_base::failure)  = 22
write(2, "\'\n", 2'
)                     = 2
write(2, "  what():  ", 11  what():  )             = 11
write(2, "failed opening file: Bad file de"..., 40failed opening file: Bad file descriptor) = 40
write(2, "\n", 1
)                       = 1
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK, [ABRT], NULL, 8) = 0
tgkill(9225, 9225, SIGABRT)             = 0
--- SIGABRT (Aborted) @ 0 (0) ---
+++ killed by SIGABRT +++

David




From pm at debian.org  Thu Jan  8 00:08:45 2009
From: pm at debian.org (Paul Martin)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:08:45 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] SVN Deb package
In-Reply-To: <1231402260.12664.11.camel@dbannon-laptop>
References: <20081218100051.GA31513@nowster.org.uk>
	<200812221932.43108.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<20081222194014.GB4050@nowster.org.uk>
	<200812230737.25125.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<1231402260.12664.11.camel@dbannon-laptop>
Message-ID: <20090108090841.GA13778@nowster.org.uk>

On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 07:11:00PM +1100, David Bannon wrote:

> I have mapnik-util, python-mapnik, mapnik-plugins, libmapnik0.5 and
> libmapnik installed. All are version 0.5.1-2ubuntu1. Looks like it might
> be some mapnik data I need but what ? 

You'll need openstreetmap-mapnik-world-boundaries from

deb     http://www.gpsdrive.de/debian testing main

You'll find an updated gpsdrive snapshot there too.

-- 
Paul Martin <pm at debian.org>

From D.Bannon at vpac.org  Thu Jan  8 01:27:04 2009
From: D.Bannon at vpac.org (David Bannon)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:27:04 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] SVN Deb package
In-Reply-To: <20090108090841.GA13778@nowster.org.uk>
References: <20081218100051.GA31513@nowster.org.uk>
	<200812221932.43108.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<20081222194014.GB4050@nowster.org.uk>
	<200812230737.25125.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<1231402260.12664.11.camel@dbannon-laptop>
	<20090108090841.GA13778@nowster.org.uk>
Message-ID: <1231410413.19588.6.camel@dbannon-laptop>


Thanks Paul, found it, downloading now. 270Meg ? gasp !

I actually got gpsdrive working using world_boundaries_m.dbf and
world_boundaries_m.shp from google souces. With them in place the binary
loads OK, tells me mapnik is not working and then does all I want.

As I don't seem to be able to work out what mapnik is for anyway I
figure I can live without it, especially if it needs a quarter of gig of
data ;-)

Maybe gpsdrive needs to decide it does not really need mapnik when it
cannot find mapnik present, be better than falling over ?

Thanks for your help.

David 




On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 09:08 +0000, Paul Martin wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 07:11:00PM +1100, David Bannon wrote:
> 
> > I have mapnik-util, python-mapnik, mapnik-plugins, libmapnik0.5 and
> > libmapnik installed. All are version 0.5.1-2ubuntu1. Looks like it might
> > be some mapnik data I need but what ? 
> 
> You'll need openstreetmap-mapnik-world-boundaries from
> 
> deb     http://www.gpsdrive.de/debian testing main
> 
> You'll find an updated gpsdrive snapshot there too.
> 


From sascha-ml-gis-gpsdrive at silbe.org  Thu Jan  8 01:41:59 2009
From: sascha-ml-gis-gpsdrive at silbe.org (Sascha Silbe)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:41:59 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Building gpsdrive without Friendsd and kismet
In-Reply-To: <021496071f347e147c1da10623a75bd3.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
References: <667d81db17f59060cac62f95aaee6c69.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<200901070937.32561.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<16e35d06113075a688e95686bff78bb9.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<200901071112.48773.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<2e27fc5a48be3dfa034ecf942a77ee25.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<20090107150829.GB20988@twin.sascha.silbe.org>
	<021496071f347e147c1da10623a75bd3.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
Message-ID: <20090108104154.GA21333@twin.sascha.silbe.org>

On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 08:41:55AM +1000, info at 4x4falcon.com wrote:

> I was actually thinking more along the lines of plugins so that 
> multiple
> types of routers could be added.
Sounds fine as well, though a "generic" one that calls a script might 
still be helpful. Copying a script is much easier than compiling a 
plugin.

CU Sascha

-- 
http://sascha.silbe.org/
http://www.infra-silbe.de/
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From jbglaw at lug-owl.de  Thu Jan  8 01:52:55 2009
From: jbglaw at lug-owl.de (Jan-Benedict Glaw)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:52:55 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] SVN Deb package
In-Reply-To: <1231410413.19588.6.camel@dbannon-laptop>
References: <20081218100051.GA31513@nowster.org.uk>
	<200812221932.43108.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<20081222194014.GB4050@nowster.org.uk>
	<200812230737.25125.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<1231402260.12664.11.camel@dbannon-laptop>
	<20090108090841.GA13778@nowster.org.uk>
	<1231410413.19588.6.camel@dbannon-laptop>
Message-ID: <20090108105252.GU11087@lug-owl.de>

On Thu, 2009-01-08 21:26:53 +1100, David Bannon <D.Bannon at vpac.org> wrote:
> 
> As I don't seem to be able to work out what mapnik is for anyway I
> figure I can live without it, especially if it needs a quarter of gig of
> data ;-)

Mapnik is a library for drawing geographical data, especially for
drawing maps. It is widely used eg. in the OpenStreetMap project
(www.openstreetmap.org) as well as in other projects.

Gpsdrive is heading into the direction of more and more using
OpenStreetMap data for display (and maybe at some time even for
routing, be it direct or indirect).

MfG, JBG

-- 
      Jan-Benedict Glaw      jbglaw at lug-owl.de              +49-172-7608481
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From D.Bannon at vpac.org  Thu Jan  8 02:32:39 2009
From: D.Bannon at vpac.org (David Bannon)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 11:32:39 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] SVN Deb package
In-Reply-To: <20090108105252.GU11087@lug-owl.de>
References: <20081218100051.GA31513@nowster.org.uk>
	<200812221932.43108.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<20081222194014.GB4050@nowster.org.uk>
	<200812230737.25125.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<1231402260.12664.11.camel@dbannon-laptop>
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	<20090108105252.GU11087@lug-owl.de>
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Ah, makes sense ! But I still get a mapnik error when starting
gpsdrive. 
---------------
Read 577 POI-Types from geoinfo.db
Cannot init mapnik. Mapnik support DISABLED: PSQL error:
FATAL:  Ident authentication failed for user "dbannon" in layer
'leisure'

Line not recognized
----------------

Does this mean I need to be running postgress to use mapnik ? Yep, looks
like thats the case, I just found  R K Scanlon's page on the wiki, will
have a play !

Thanks for your help guys ! 

(I have done a bit of doc writing in the past, if I am still playing in
this space in awhile, maybe I can help with some of the documentation ?)

David


On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 11:52 +0100, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-01-08 21:26:53 +1100, David Bannon <D.Bannon at vpac.org> wrote:
> > 
> > As I don't seem to be able to work out what mapnik is for anyway I
> > figure I can live without it, especially if it needs a quarter of gig of
> > data ;-)
> 
> Mapnik is a library for drawing geographical data, especially for
> drawing maps. It is widely used eg. in the OpenStreetMap project
> (www.openstreetmap.org) as well as in other projects.
> 
> Gpsdrive is heading into the direction of more and more using
> OpenStreetMap data for display (and maybe at some time even for
> routing, be it direct or indirect).
> 
> MfG, JBG
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GPSdrive mailing list
> GPSdrive at lists.gpsdrivers.org
> http://lists.gpsdrivers.org/mailman/listinfo/gpsdrive


From jbglaw at lug-owl.de  Thu Jan  8 02:50:29 2009
From: jbglaw at lug-owl.de (Jan-Benedict Glaw)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 11:50:29 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] SVN Deb package
In-Reply-To: <1231414347.19588.19.camel@dbannon-laptop>
References: <20081218100051.GA31513@nowster.org.uk>
	<200812221932.43108.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<20081222194014.GB4050@nowster.org.uk>
	<200812230737.25125.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<1231402260.12664.11.camel@dbannon-laptop>
	<20090108090841.GA13778@nowster.org.uk>
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On Thu, 2009-01-08 22:32:27 +1100, David Bannon <D.Bannon at vpac.org> wrote:
> 
> Ah, makes sense ! But I still get a mapnik error when starting
> gpsdrive. 
> ---------------
> Read 577 POI-Types from geoinfo.db
> Cannot init mapnik. Mapnik support DISABLED: PSQL error:
> FATAL:  Ident authentication failed for user "dbannon" in layer
> 'leisure'
> 
> Line not recognized
> ----------------
> 
> Does this mean I need to be running postgress to use mapnik ? Yep, looks
> like thats the case, I just found  R K Scanlon's page on the wiki, will
> have a play !

Mapnik can use several different data sources, but I guess most
widely, PostGIS is used, primarily with OpenStreetMap data converted
via osm2pgsql. This is, too, what the XML file (describing the map's
look) is written for.

MfG, JBG

-- 
      Jan-Benedict Glaw      jbglaw at lug-owl.de              +49-172-7608481
Signature of:  The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty
the second  : decreases."  (Thomas Jefferson)
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From info at 4x4falcon.com  Thu Jan  8 03:40:13 2009
From: info at 4x4falcon.com (info at 4x4falcon.com)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:40:13 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Building gpsdrive without Friendsd and kismet
In-Reply-To: <20090108104154.GA21333@twin.sascha.silbe.org>
References: <667d81db17f59060cac62f95aaee6c69.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<200901070937.32561.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<16e35d06113075a688e95686bff78bb9.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<200901071112.48773.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
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> On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 08:41:55AM +1000, info at 4x4falcon.com wrote:
>
>> I was actually thinking more along the lines of plugins so that
>> multiple
>> types of routers could be added.
> Sounds fine as well, though a "generic" one that calls a script might
> still be helpful. Copying a script is much easier than compiling a
> plugin.
>
> CU Sascha

Sure is.

I've got gosmore working through a script from gpsdrive and auto loads the
generated gpx file.

Still have some tidying up to do then I'll post a patch and howto on the
wiki.

Cheers
Ross



From kripton at kripserver.net  Thu Jan  8 03:41:25 2009
From: kripton at kripserver.net (Jannis Achstetter)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:41:25 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Building gpsdrive without Friendsd and kismet
In-Reply-To: <200901080000.57943.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
References: <667d81db17f59060cac62f95aaee6c69.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>	<2e27fc5a48be3dfa034ecf942a77ee25.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>	<20090107150829.GB20988@twin.sascha.silbe.org>
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Guenther Meyer schrieb:
> Am Mittwoch 07 Januar 2009 schrieb Sascha Silbe:
>> On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 11:56:06PM +1000, info at 4x4falcon.com wrote:
>>> Additionally maybe look at implementing the code from gosmore directly
>>> into gpsdrive.
>> It might be better not to couple them too tightly, so alternatives to
>> gosmore could be used as well.
> we should divide the code in several parts:
> 
> navigation.c holds the generic routing related functions, that always stay the 
> same, no matter what actually does the routing work.
> 
> other modules, like navigation_gosmore.c hold the specific functions which are 
> only called by functions in navigation.c

Another idea for a "specific routing backend" might be pgrouting
(http://pgrouting.postlbs.org/). It lets the database (which is closest
to the data) do all the work.
I don't have any experience with it and yesterday when I had time to
take alook at it the homepage was down (but is working again) but it
might me easy to implement in gpsdrive.

Jannis
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From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Thu Jan  8 07:54:07 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:54:07 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] SVN Deb package
In-Reply-To: <1231414347.19588.19.camel@dbannon-laptop>
References: <20081218100051.GA31513@nowster.org.uk>
	<20090108105252.GU11087@lug-owl.de>
	<1231414347.19588.19.camel@dbannon-laptop>
Message-ID: <200901081754.08309.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Donnerstag 08 Januar 2009 schrieb David Bannon:
> Does this mean I need to be running postgress to use mapnik ? Yep, looks
> like thats the case, I just found  R K Scanlon's page on the wiki, will
> have a play !
>
if you want to use mapnik with gpsdrive you need a postgres database with 
postgis extensions. the easiest way to do the setup, is to use the script 
mapnik-osm-updater.sh coming with the openstreetmap-utils package.

but gpsdrive can also be compiled without the mapnik extensions...

> (I have done a bit of doc writing in the past, if I am still playing in
> this space in awhile, maybe I can help with some of the documentation ?)
>
maybe. documentation writing people are always wanted ;-)
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From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Thu Jan  8 08:14:29 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:14:29 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] routing with gpsdrive
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References: <667d81db17f59060cac62f95aaee6c69.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
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ok, I summarize:

we have currently the following modules, that could be realized:
- openrouteservice
- gosmore
- pgrouting
- generic (for external scripts or binaries)

as this will all be modular, others can be added.

I will do the basic navigation.c stuff for the gpsdrive integration, you or 
someone else does the modules ;-)



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From info at 4x4falcon.com  Thu Jan  8 15:28:53 2009
From: info at 4x4falcon.com (Ross Scanlon)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:28:53 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] routing with gpsdrive
In-Reply-To: <200901081814.24168.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
References: <667d81db17f59060cac62f95aaee6c69.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<200901080000.57943.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
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Message-ID: <20090109102847.1034d650@linus.theinternethost.com.au>

Hi,

Attached is navigation.c navigation.h navigation_gui.c navigation_gui.h do_gosmore.pl

These have the basic routing functions for use with an external script.

More work needs to be done but it works with gosmore called from an external script at the moment.

The perl script do_gosmore.pl calls gosmore and converts it's output to a gpx file saved in ~/.gpsdrive this also still needs to be improved, eg take output directly from gosmore rather than creating temporary file.  I did it this way for determining/solving problems.

Setup:

Create two directorys

/usr/share/gpsdrive/plugins
/usr/share/gpsdrive/plugins/gosmore

copy the script do_gosmore.pl to the directory /usr/share/gpsdrive/plugins

Download and compile gosmore to the directory /usr/share/gpsdrive/plugins/gosmore

Create the gosmore.pak file in this directory also.


main_gui.c needs to have

<include> "navigation_gui.h"

entered where the other includes are at the begining of the file

and the call to 

draw_navigation_button (vbox_buttons, maintool_tips);

entered before the creation of the route_bt.

I'll create a patch over the weekend with all this in it.

Regards
Ross


On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 18:14:18 +0100
Guenther Meyer <d.s.e at sordidmusic.com> wrote:

> ok, I summarize:
> 
> we have currently the following modules, that could be realized:
> - openrouteservice
> - gosmore
> - pgrouting
> - generic (for external scripts or binaries)
> 
> as this will all be modular, others can be added.
> 
> I will do the basic navigation.c stuff for the gpsdrive integration, you or 
> someone else does the modules ;-)
> 
> 
> 
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From info at 4x4falcon.com  Thu Jan  8 15:31:43 2009
From: info at 4x4falcon.com (Ross Scanlon)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:31:43 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Building gpsdrive without Friendsd and kismet
In-Reply-To: <200901072130.37188.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
References: <667d81db17f59060cac62f95aaee6c69.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<2e27fc5a48be3dfa034ecf942a77ee25.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
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On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 21:30:36 +0100
"Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany)" <gpsdrive at ostertag.name> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> In the long run I personally would love to see a solution close to 
> mapnik(postgis). This way a user would only have to import osm data once and 
> not twice: once for displaying and once for routing.
> But for the first part we should stick with the solution easiest to implement.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Joerg
> 

Hi,

An external program (gosmore) with it's own preprocessed data will also work with raster maps as well.

So those that are not running mapnik/postgres/postgis could still use routing.

Cheers
Ross

From mail at cynapses.org  Fri Jan  9 00:54:00 2009
From: mail at cynapses.org (Andreas Schneider)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 09:54:00 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Maemo
Message-ID: <200901091053.26800.mail@cynapses.org>

Hi,

I've bought a N810 and I saw some checkins for maemo. What about a garage 
project for gpsdrive to provide latest gpsdrive packages for the maemo 
plattform?

Has someone already looked deeper int embedded mysql?


	-- andreas
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From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Fri Jan  9 04:05:44 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:05:44 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Maemo
In-Reply-To: <200901091053.26800.mail@cynapses.org>
References: <200901091053.26800.mail@cynapses.org>
Message-ID: <200901091405.45990.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Freitag 09 Januar 2009 schrieb Andreas Schneider:
> Hi,
>
> I've bought a N810 and I saw some checkins for maemo. What about a garage
> project for gpsdrive to provide latest gpsdrive packages for the maemo
> plattform?
>
I played around a little bit with gpsdrive on maemo.
the basic stuff is working very well on my emulator, but some things are still 
missing. I didn't try it on the real N810, because that would need debian 
packaging, which is not easy to do...
it seems, that cmake 2.6 can create debian packages, but these are not "real" 
debian packages afair.

a garage project to provide packages would be fine, but the source code should 
stay in the sf svn.
would you like to maintain such a project?

> Has someone already looked deeper int embedded mysql?
>
mysql? why?
we use sqlite for storage of POI data, which should work fine on maemo.
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From elmonogrande at gmail.com  Fri Jan  9 12:30:41 2009
From: elmonogrande at gmail.com (Alex Cruz)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:30:41 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] USB GPS Recommendations
Message-ID: <200901091536.34832.elmonogrande@gmail.com>

Hello all,
While I have certainly read countless postings of reports both on the web and 
at the gpsd site, I figured I'd ask here. Which USB GPS have you all found 
that work well with both GPSDrive and Ubuntu? Any information would be 
greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

-alex

From chris123 at magma.ca  Fri Jan  9 12:50:42 2009
From: chris123 at magma.ca (Chris h)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:50:42 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] USB GPS Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <200901091536.34832.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
References: <200901091536.34832.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901091650.39023.chris123@magma.ca>

On Friday 09 January 2009 16:36:34 Alex Cruz wrote:

Holux GR-213 seems to work fine at this end.

-- 
/ch

From dbradford at never-enuff.net  Fri Jan  9 12:56:01 2009
From: dbradford at never-enuff.net (Dickie Bradford)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:56:01 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] USB GPS Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <200901091536.34832.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
References: <200901091536.34832.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4967C7EE.6040104@never-enuff.net>

I have a Holux 213U and it works well

Dickie

Alex Cruz wrote:
> Hello all,
> While I have certainly read countless postings of reports both on the web and 
> at the gpsd site, I figured I'd ask here. Which USB GPS have you all found 
> that work well with both GPSDrive and Ubuntu? Any information would be 
> greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -alex
> _______________________________________________
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From gpsdrive at ostertag.name  Fri Jan  9 14:44:55 2009
From: gpsdrive at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany))
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:44:55 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] SVN Deb package
In-Reply-To: <1231414347.19588.19.camel@dbannon-laptop>
References: <20081218100051.GA31513@nowster.org.uk>
	<20090108105252.GU11087@lug-owl.de>
	<1231414347.19588.19.camel@dbannon-laptop>
Message-ID: <200901100044.46511.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>

First of all, the current packages from www.gpsdrive.de/debian are compiled on 
a debian lenny machine and I only cecked them to work there. But they should 
work on other debian based systems too. I am currently working on a compile 
for the most wanted additional debian based platforms. But as most of you 
know these things always take a little longer then one whishes ... ;-)
You'll find a little bit more about what to install for the current 
Mapnik-OpenStreetMap-System to work with GpsDrive below.

...

> Does this mean I need to be running postgress to use mapnik ? Yep, looks
> like thats the case, I just found  R K Scanlon's page on the wiki, will
> have a play !

Yes, if you want to use mapnik and it's live vector rendering you'll need a 
postgres database with posgis extention and with mapnik extention. On my 
debbian system these can all be installed from debian packages.

After the software to render the data is in place you'll need the data itself 
in addition. One part are the world boundaries. Which you probably already 
have in place. The second part are the OpenStreetMap Data itself for your 
area of interest. This Data will bea easiest installed with 
mapnik-osm-updater.sh which can be found in the openstreetmap-utils debian 
package. After installing the package you can download and install the 
current mapnik data by issuing a command similar to the following:
	mapnik-osm-updater.sh --all-planet-geofabrik=europe/germany

If everything worked like planed you will then have a live vector rendering of 
the OpenStreetMap Data inside Gpsdrive. You then will no longer have the need 
to download single images of maps...


I hope this short OpenStreetMap in GpsDrive intro helps installing it on your 
System.

yours

J?rg (Germany, Tettnang)

http://www.ostertag.name/

From joerg at ostertag.name  Fri Jan  9 14:54:17 2009
From: joerg at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (Tettnang))
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:54:17 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] USB GPS Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <200901091536.34832.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
References: <200901091536.34832.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901100054.13448.joerg@ostertag.name>

On Freitag 09 Januar 2009, Alex Cruz wrote:
> Hello all,
> While I have certainly read countless postings of reports both on the web
> and at the gpsd site, I figured I'd ask here. Which USB GPS have you all
> found that work well with both GPSDrive and Ubuntu? 

I am not sure if you are talking of Gps-Receivers which can be readout via USB 
(linke the new Garmin Devices) or if you're talking about those simple 
GPS-Mice which you plugin to your USB-Port and which don't have any Buttons 
nor a display. 
If you're talking of those Simple GPS-Mice in My opinion they should all work 
good. My experience with all cable based USB-GPS-Mice were all positive. I 
havn't found any yet which did not work.

-
Joerg

From chris123 at magma.ca  Fri Jan  9 15:28:36 2009
From: chris123 at magma.ca (Chris h)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:28:36 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] USB GPS Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <200901100054.13448.joerg@ostertag.name>
References: <200901091536.34832.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
	<200901100054.13448.joerg@ostertag.name>
Message-ID: <200901091928.32949.chris123@magma.ca>

On Friday 09 January 2009 18:54:12 Joerg Ostertag (Tettnang) wrote:

> If you're talking of those Simple GPS-Mice in My opinion they should all
> work good. My experience with all cable based USB-GPS-Mice were all
> positive. I havn't found any yet which did not work.

The only ones to stay away from unless tested and documented by other, I 
found, are the blue tooth models. Bricked my 70 CDN unit second day and its a 
known issue if you read the man page for gpsd. Forgot to use the -b switch 
and that was it. Toast. 



-- 
/ch

From elmonogrande at gmail.com  Fri Jan  9 16:27:14 2009
From: elmonogrande at gmail.com (Alex Cruz)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:27:14 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] USB GPS Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <200901091928.32949.chris123@magma.ca>
References: <200901091536.34832.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
	<200901100054.13448.joerg@ostertag.name>
	<200901091928.32949.chris123@magma.ca>
Message-ID: <200901091933.09766.elmonogrande@gmail.com>

Well, I think I've gotten enough information to make a purchase. Thanks again 
to everyone's input. Now I need to find the Ubuntu install docs since the 
last time I ran GPSdrive, I was using Gentoo. And that was a little over 1 
year ago. Time to get back out and map the WiFi spots ;-)

-alex

On Friday 09 January 2009, Chris h wrote:
> On Friday 09 January 2009 18:54:12 Joerg Ostertag (Tettnang) wrote:
> > If you're talking of those Simple GPS-Mice in My opinion they should all
> > work good. My experience with all cable based USB-GPS-Mice were all
> > positive. I havn't found any yet which did not work.
>
> The only ones to stay away from unless tested and documented by other, I
> found, are the blue tooth models. Bricked my 70 CDN unit second day and its
> a known issue if you read the man page for gpsd. Forgot to use the -b
> switch and that was it. Toast.

From pm at debian.org  Fri Jan  9 16:29:30 2009
From: pm at debian.org (Paul Martin)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:29:30 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] USB GPS Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <200901091536.34832.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
References: <200901091536.34832.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090110012924.GA9428@nowster.org.uk>

On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 03:36:34PM -0600, Alex Cruz wrote:

> Which USB GPS have you all found that work well with both GPSDrive and
> Ubuntu? Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Holux M-241 via Bluetooth. The GPS receiver sits on the dashboard and the
laptop on one of the passenger seats.

-- 
Paul Martin <pm at debian.org>

From mkomarinski at wayga.org  Fri Jan  9 16:49:06 2009
From: mkomarinski at wayga.org (Mark Komarinski)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:49:06 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] USB GPS Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <200901091933.09766.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
References: <200901091536.34832.elmonogrande@gmail.com>	<200901100054.13448.joerg@ostertag.name>	<200901091928.32949.chris123@magma.ca>
	<200901091933.09766.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4967FE88.7020506@wayga.org>

Alex Cruz wrote:
> Well, I think I've gotten enough information to make a purchase. Thanks again 
> to everyone's input. Now I need to find the Ubuntu install docs since the 
> last time I ran GPSdrive, I was using Gentoo. And that was a little over 1 
> year ago. Time to get back out and map the WiFi spots ;-)

Please let me know when you have it working.  My gpsdrive install on 
8.10 is somewhat scrambled and every time I reinstall I get something 
that doesn't work properly.

Maybe we can work on some Ubuntu install docs to help others.

-Mark

From hamish_b at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  9 22:08:31 2009
From: hamish_b at yahoo.com (Hamish)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:08:31 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] routing with gpsdrive
In-Reply-To: <200901081814.24168.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <580955.47271.qm@web110004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Guenther:
> ok, I summarize:
> 
> we have currently the following modules, that could be
> realized:
> - openrouteservice
> - gosmore
> - pgrouting
> - generic (for external scripts or binaries)
> 
> as this will all be modular, others can be added.
> 
> I will do the basic navigation.c stuff for the gpsdrive
> integration, you or someone else does the modules ;-)


see also DGLib, http://grass.osgeo.org/dglib/


Hamish



      


From hamish_b at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  9 22:21:42 2009
From: hamish_b at yahoo.com (Hamish)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:21:42 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] SVN Deb package
In-Reply-To: <1231414347.19588.19.camel@dbannon-laptop>
Message-ID: <185510.57504.qm@web110004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

David Bannon wrote:
> Thanks for your help guys ! 
> 
> (I have done a bit of doc writing in the past, if I am still playing in
> this space in awhile, maybe I can help with some of the documentation ?)

go for it:
  http://gpsdrive.sf.net/wiki



Hamish



      


From joerg at ostertag.name  Fri Jan  9 23:36:22 2009
From: joerg at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (Tettnang))
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:36:22 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] USB GPS Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <200901091933.09766.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
References: <200901091536.34832.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
	<200901091928.32949.chris123@magma.ca>
	<200901091933.09766.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901100936.14904.joerg@ostertag.name>

On Samstag 10 Januar 2009, Alex Cruz wrote:
> Well, I think I've gotten enough information to make a purchase. Thanks
> again to everyone's input. Now I need to find the Ubuntu install docs since
> the last time I ran GPSdrive, I was using Gentoo. And that was a little
> over 1 year ago. Time to get back out and map the WiFi spots ;-)

If you're mapping WiFi Spots, you should think about also adding your 
collected Street-Data to www.OpenStreetMap.org :-)

You shou
> -alex
>
> On Friday 09 January 2009, Chris h wrote:
> > On Friday 09 January 2009 18:54:12 Joerg Ostertag (Tettnang) wrote:
> > > If you're talking of those Simple GPS-Mice in My opinion they should
> > > all work good. My experience with all cable based USB-GPS-Mice were all
> > > positive. I havn't found any yet which did not work.
> >
> > The only ones to stay away from unless tested and documented by other, I
> > found, are the blue tooth models. Bricked my 70 CDN unit second day and
> > its a known issue if you read the man page for gpsd. Forgot to use the -b
> > switch and that was it. Toast.
>
> _______________________________________________
> GPSdrive mailing list
> GPSdrive at lists.gpsdrivers.org
> http://lists.gpsdrivers.org/mailman/listinfo/gpsdrive



-- 

J?rg

http://www.ostertag.name/

From mail at cynapses.org  Sat Jan 10 00:00:47 2009
From: mail at cynapses.org (Andreas Schneider)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 09:00:47 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Maemo
In-Reply-To: <200901091405.45990.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
References: <200901091053.26800.mail@cynapses.org>
	<200901091405.45990.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <200901101000.43361.mail@cynapses.org>

On Friday 09 January 2009 14:05:40 Guenther Meyer wrote:
> Am Freitag 09 Januar 2009 schrieb Andreas Schneider:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've bought a N810 and I saw some checkins for maemo. What about a garage
> > project for gpsdrive to provide latest gpsdrive packages for the maemo
> > plattform?
>
> I played around a little bit with gpsdrive on maemo.
> the basic stuff is working very well on my emulator, but some things are
> still missing. I didn't try it on the real N810, because that would need
> debian packaging, which is not easy to do...

It wouldn't make fun if it would be easy :) Well dpkg sucks ...

> it seems, that cmake 2.6 can create debian packages, but these are not
> "real" debian packages afair.
>
> a garage project to provide packages would be fine, but the source code
> should stay in the sf svn.

Definitely. 

> would you like to maintain such a project?
>

I would try to do this. Have you compiled it with mapnik support?

> > Has someone already looked deeper int embedded mysql?
>
> mysql? why?
> we use sqlite for storage of POI data, which should work fine on maemo.

It looks like that embeddded mysql performs better than sqlite3. amarok 
switched from sqlite3 to embedded mysql. I just wondered if someone looked at 
it.

How are openstreetmap mapdata stored? I thought a mysql database is needed for 
this. Has mapnik it's own format.

Cheers,

	-- andreas

-- 
cybernetic synapses - http://www.cynapses.org/
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From kaare at jasonic.dk  Sat Jan 10 00:30:59 2009
From: kaare at jasonic.dk (Kaare Rasmussen)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 09:30:59 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] make gpsdrive-2.10pre6 fails on OpenSUSE 11.0
Message-ID: <200901101030.51141.kaare@jasonic.dk>

After getting gpsdrive-2.10pre6, untarring in /tmp and then 

cd gpsdrive-2.10pre6
mkdir build
cd build
cmake ..
-- The C compiler identification is GNU
-- The CXX compiler identification is GNU
-- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/gcc
-- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/gcc -- works
-- Detecting C compiler ABI info
-- Detecting C compiler ABI info - done
-- Check for working CXX compiler: /usr/bin/c++
-- Check for working CXX compiler: /usr/bin/c++ -- works
-- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info
-- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info - done
-- Looking for include files HAVE_LIBINTL_H
-- Looking for include files HAVE_LIBINTL_H - found
-- Looking for dgettext
-- Looking for dgettext - found
-- Found Gettext: built in libc
-- Looking for include files HAVE_CRYPT_H
-- Looking for include files HAVE_CRYPT_H - found
-- Looking for include files HAVE_LINUX_INET_H
-- Looking for include files HAVE_LINUX_INET_H - not found.
-- Looking for include files HAVE_UNISTD_H
-- Looking for include files HAVE_UNISTD_H - found
-- Looking for include files HAVE_LOCALE_H
-- Looking for include files HAVE_LOCALE_H - found
-- Looking for XOpenDisplay in /usr/lib/libX11.so;/usr/lib/libXext.so
-- Looking for XOpenDisplay in /usr/lib/libX11.so;/usr/lib/libXext.so - found
-- Looking for gethostbyname
-- Looking for gethostbyname - found
-- Looking for connect
-- Looking for connect - found
-- Looking for remove
-- Looking for remove - found
-- Looking for shmat
-- Looking for shmat - found
-- Looking for IceConnectionNumber in ICE
-- Looking for IceConnectionNumber in ICE - found
-- Found X11: /usr/lib/libX11.so
-- checking for module 'gtk+-2.0'
--   found gtk+-2.0, version 2.12.9
-- checking for module 'glib-2.0'
--   found glib-2.0, version 2.16.3
-- checking for module 'gmodule-2.0'
--   found gmodule-2.0, version 2.16.3
-- checking for module 'pango'
--   found pango, version 1.20.1
-- checking for module 'gdk-2.0'
--   found gdk-2.0, version 2.12.9
-- checking for module 'cairo'
--   found cairo, version 1.4.14
-- checking for module 'atk'
--   found atk, version 1.22.0
-- Found 
GTK2: /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so;/usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so;/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so
-- checking for module 'libxml-2.0'
--   found libxml-2.0, version 2.6.32
-- Found XML2: /usr/lib/libxml2.so
-- checking for module 'freetype2'
--   found freetype2, version 9.16.3
-- Found Freetype2: /usr/lib/libfreetype.so
-- checking for module 'libgda-3.0'
--   found libgda-3.0, version 3.1.2
-- Found GDA3: /usr/lib/libgda-3.0.so
-- checking for module 'sqlite3'
--   found sqlite3, version 3.5
-- Found Sqlite3: /usr/lib/libsqlite3.so
-- Found The Following Boost Libraries:
--   filesystem
-- Boost Version: 1.36.0
-- Found Mapnik: /usr/lib/libmapnik.so
mapnik datadir: /usr/local/share/gpsdrive/mapnik
-- Found Perl: /usr/bin/perl
-- Configuring done
-- Generating done
-- Build files have been written to: /tmp/gpsdrive-2.10pre6/build

...and then
 make
...
[ 98%] Building C object src/CMakeFiles/gpsdrive.dir/waypoint.o
[100%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/gpsdrive.dir/mapnik.o
/tmp/gpsdrive-2.10pre6/src/mapnik.cpp: In function ?void 
mapnik::init_mapnik(char*)?:
/tmp/gpsdrive-2.10pre6/src/mapnik.cpp:208: error: ?class 
boost::filesystem::basic_directory_entry<boost::filesystem::basic_path<std::basic_string<char, 
std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >, 
boost::filesystem::path_traits> >? has no member named ?leaf?
/tmp/gpsdrive-2.10pre6/src/mapnik.cpp:212: error: ?class 
boost::filesystem::basic_directory_entry<boost::filesystem::basic_path<std::basic_string<char, 
std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >, 
boost::filesystem::path_traits> >? has no member named ?leaf?
make[2]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/gpsdrive.dir/mapnik.o] Fejl 1
make[1]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/gpsdrive.dir/all] Fejl 2
make: *** [all] Fejl 2


-- 

Med venlig hilsen
Kaare Rasmussen, Jasonic

Jasonic                 Telefon: +45 3816 2582
Nordre Fasanvej 12
2000 Frederiksberg      Email: kaare at jasonic.dk

From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Sat Jan 10 02:56:45 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:56:45 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Maemo
In-Reply-To: <200901101000.43361.mail@cynapses.org>
References: <200901091053.26800.mail@cynapses.org>
	<200901091405.45990.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<200901101000.43361.mail@cynapses.org>
Message-ID: <200901101256.44787.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Samstag 10 Januar 2009 schrieb Andreas Schneider:
> It wouldn't make fun if it would be easy :) Well dpkg sucks ...
>
hmm, from a user pointer of view it works like a charm, I really like it.
but as developer/packager...

> > would you like to maintain such a project?
>
> I would try to do this. Have you compiled it with mapnik support?
>
no. that would require mapnik and postgis, which wouldn't work on an N810 I 
guess.

> > > Has someone already looked deeper int embedded mysql?
> >
> > mysql? why?
> > we use sqlite for storage of POI data, which should work fine on maemo.
>
> It looks like that embeddded mysql performs better than sqlite3. amarok
> switched from sqlite3 to embedded mysql. I just wondered if someone looked
> at it.
>
ok. we switched to sqlite, because it is very easy to install and use, and it 
is portable. I really don't want to go back to mysql again, though I don't 
know embedded mysql. maybe the sqlite people will fix this some day...

> How are openstreetmap mapdata stored? I thought a mysql database is needed
> for this. Has mapnik it's own format.
>
POI data is stored in sqlite.
the map data will be stored as bitmaps on N810; at least that is the current 
plan.

mapnik uses postgres with postgis extensions.
the live rendering is sometimes very slow on my car pc, which is 3-4 times 
faster than a N810, so I think this would not be usable.

data for routing will be stored separately, depending on the routing engine 
that is used. but that's a very new topic for gpsdrive...



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From elmonogrande at gmail.com  Sat Jan 10 04:39:59 2009
From: elmonogrande at gmail.com (Alex Cruz)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:39:59 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] USB GPS Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <200901100936.14904.joerg@ostertag.name>
References: <200901091536.34832.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
	<200901091933.09766.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
	<200901100936.14904.joerg@ostertag.name>
Message-ID: <200901100745.59897.elmonogrande@gmail.com>

On Saturday 10 January 2009, Joerg Ostertag (Tettnang) wrote:
> If you're mapping WiFi Spots, you should think about also adding your
> collected Street-Data to www.OpenStreetMap.org :-)

Joerg,
Oh yes, I am VERY familiar with OpenStreetMap with GPSdrive and Kismet. Like I 
said, I was running it all on Gentoo and did a fair amount of mapping prior 
to losing the HD on that laptop. I suppose I should have backed it up 
occasionally ;-)

On Friday 09 January 2009, Mark Komarinski wrote:
> Please let me know when you have it working.  My gpsdrive install on
> 8.10 is somewhat scrambled and every time I reinstall I get something
> that doesn't work properly.
>
> Maybe we can work on some Ubuntu install docs to help others.

Mark, I'd be happy to work with you. I should clarify that I am running 
Kubuntu 8.04.1 instead of 8.10 for 2 reasons:

a. I prefer KDE over Gnome as my desktop
b. I'm not ready to move to KDE4 just yet. IMO, it still needs more work

With that said, since both Ubuntu and Kubuntu use the same underlying base, we 
should be able to figure out what's going on with your install. I can always 
create a few VM's for testing installs on both versions. 

-alex

From hamish_b at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 11 12:10:26 2009
From: hamish_b at yahoo.com (Hamish)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:10:26 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] USB GPS Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <200901100745.59897.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <547147.2322.qm@web110015.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

> > Maybe we can work on some Ubuntu install docs to help others.

see & add improvements here:
http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/gpsdrive/index.php?title=Installing#Ubuntu


Hamish



      


From hamish_b at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 11 19:11:07 2009
From: hamish_b at yahoo.com (Hamish)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 04:11:07 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] release?
In-Reply-To: <200901071112.48773.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <856906.17029.qm@web110004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi,

much has changed since the last pre6 release.
perhaps it is time to release a new version.

fwiw, I see no need to wait for routing or other great feature to
release 2.10.0, we have enough new great features to warrant a release
now. we can issue 2.11 next month, or tomorrow, or next year...

IMO if another pre- version just tag from SVN trunk, if rc1 create
branches/releasebranch_2_10 or so, and tag rcX and final from there.
only bug fixes are backported to a release branch.


?
Hamish



      


From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Sun Jan 11 21:42:02 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 06:42:02 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] release?
In-Reply-To: <856906.17029.qm@web110004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <856906.17029.qm@web110004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901120742.02426.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Montag 12 Januar 2009 schrieb Hamish:
> Hi,
>
> much has changed since the last pre6 release.
> perhaps it is time to release a new version.
>
right.

> fwiw, I see no need to wait for routing or other great feature to
> release 2.10.0, we have enough new great features to warrant a release
> now. we can issue 2.11 next month, or tomorrow, or next year...
>
right.

the only thing I wish to have, is some cleanup of the poi types and icons.

> IMO if another pre- version just tag from SVN trunk, if rc1 create
> branches/releasebranch_2_10 or so, and tag rcX and final from there.
> only bug fixes are backported to a release branch.
>
so let's do a pre7 with feature freeze now, and the final 2.10 in the next few 
weeks.



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From gpsdrive at ostertag.name  Sun Jan 11 22:18:28 2009
From: gpsdrive at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany))
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:18:28 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Fwd: [GpsDrive-svn] SF.net SVN: gpsdrive:[2254]
	trunk/debian/control
Message-ID: <200901120818.17620.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>

Hi,

does someone have the time to adapt the cmake script to allig gda2 as well?
This way i hope we will be able to compile GpsDrive for debian etch too.

-- 

J?rg (Germany, Tettnang)

http://www.ostertag.name/
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From pm at debian.org  Mon Jan 12 07:18:08 2009
From: pm at debian.org (Paul Martin)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:18:08 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Miles per hour
In-Reply-To: <200901052125.31771.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
References: <20090105093703.GD23598@nowster.org.uk>
	<200901052125.31771.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <20090112161803.GA8876@nowster.org.uk>

On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 09:25:25PM +0100, Guenther Meyer wrote:

> hmm, yes, I had some other changes in my mind when I wrote this part.
> I considered to change the gpsdrive code so that the variables always contain 
> metric values, and that the conversion to something else is only done when 
> needed for display. this should save some conversions during the 
> calculations, I guess...

Trip Odometer also works in kilometres whilst claiming to be in miles. The
problem is that some measures are held internally in the preferred units,
and some are in the native units. This causes confusion in the code.

I'd strongly suggest consistently working internally in SI units -- metres
(not km) and metres/second (not kph) -- with conversion to the user's
preferred units only at the point of output.

-- 
Paul Martin <pm at debian.org>
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From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Mon Jan 12 07:36:27 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:36:27 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Miles per hour
In-Reply-To: <20090112161803.GA8876@nowster.org.uk>
References: <20090105093703.GD23598@nowster.org.uk>
	<200901052125.31771.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<20090112161803.GA8876@nowster.org.uk>
Message-ID: <200901121736.33578.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Montag 12 Januar 2009 schrieb Paul Martin:
> Trip Odometer also works in kilometres whilst claiming to be in miles. The
> problem is that some measures are held internally in the preferred units,
> and some are in the native units. This causes confusion in the code.
>
not good...

> I'd strongly suggest consistently working internally in SI units -- metres
> (not km) and metres/second (not kph) -- with conversion to the user's
> preferred units only at the point of output.
this is what I already have in mind for some time...

maybe you have the time to do this change ;-)

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From hamish_b at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 12 14:28:05 2009
From: hamish_b at yahoo.com (Hamish)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:28:05 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Fwd: [GpsDrive-svn] SF.net SVN: gpsdrive:[2254]
	trunk/debian/control
In-Reply-To: <200901120818.17620.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
Message-ID: <326033.29802.qm@web110004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Joerg wrote:
> does someone have the time to adapt the cmake script to allig gda2
> as well?

I tried that, but it didn't work. My determination at the time (Sept 24)
was that GDA2 would not work without rewriting the C code due to API
changes, etc.

> This way i hope we will be able to compile GpsDrive for debian etch too.

I have compiled GpsDrive & created a .deb for Etch without Mapnik support.
  http://hamish.bowman.googlepages.com/gpsdrivefiles#etch

The package there is SVN from ~1 month ago (pre-libgps?), I have made a
new SVN .deb for Etch as recently as yesterday, but not uploaded it yet.

IIRC you need newer Mapnik/OSM packages than are available for Etch, so
would need to backport those as well to get GpsDrive+Mapnik on Etch. OSM
is poorly covered where I live, so I haven't bothered with that.


Hamish



      


From gpsdrive at ostertag.name  Mon Jan 12 14:50:33 2009
From: gpsdrive at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany))
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:50:33 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] New debian repository Structure
Message-ID: <200901130050.25402.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>

Hi all users of debian based systems,

I started to use the new "build-cluster" here. So all the debian packages in the 
repository got a fresh new build. 
 - I also seperated etch and lenny.
 - And started added some more platforms. (i386/amd64)
 - Also started with Ubuntu builds.
All this can now be installed by using the slightly modified sources.list.
See:
	http://www.gpsdrive.de/development/debian.shtml

More debian-based-compiles on the different platforms will follow these
days/weeks/month.

PS.: Any modification to also let the debian packages compile and work on additional
       Distributions is welcome.

Here are the still open combinations:
debian-etch-32/debuild.results:   bad:   gpsdrive-svn utils gosmore josm merkaartor opencarbox-svn
debian-lenny-32/debuild.results:   bad:   merkaartor opencarbox-svn
debian-lenny-64/debuild.results:   bad:   opencarbox-svn
ubuntu-hardy-32/debuild.results:   bad:   gpsdrive-svn maps merkaartor opencarbox-svn
ubuntu-hardy-64/debuild.results:   bad:   gpsdrive-svn maps utils josm merkaartor opencarbox-svn
ubuntu-intrepid-32/debuild.results:   bad:   maps opencarbox-svn
ubuntu-intrepid-64/debuild.results:   bad:   maps utils merkaartor opencarbox-svn


-- 

J?rg (Germany, Tettnang)

http://www.ostertag.name/

From joerg at ostertag.name  Mon Jan 12 15:02:50 2009
From: joerg at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (Tettnang))
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:02:50 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Fwd: [GpsDrive-svn] SF.net SVN: gpsdrive:[2254]
	trunk/debian/control
In-Reply-To: <326033.29802.qm@web110004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <326033.29802.qm@web110004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901130102.43494.joerg@ostertag.name>

On Dienstag 13 Januar 2009, Hamish wrote:
> Joerg wrote:
> > does someone have the time to adapt the cmake script to allig gda2
> > as well?
>
> I tried that, but it didn't work. My determination at the time (Sept 24)
> was that GDA2 would not work without rewriting the C code due to API
> changes, etc.
>
> > This way i hope we will be able to compile GpsDrive for debian etch too.
>
> I have compiled GpsDrive & created a .deb for Etch without Mapnik support.
>   http://hamish.bowman.googlepages.com/gpsdrivefiles#etch

Do you think there is a possibility to integrate this into the default package 
and only get it triggered if we compile on debian etch?

> The package there is SVN from ~1 month ago (pre-libgps?), I have made a
> new SVN .deb for Etch as recently as yesterday, but not uploaded it yet.
>
> IIRC you need newer Mapnik/OSM packages than are available for Etch, so
> would need to backport those as well to get GpsDrive+Mapnik on Etch. OSM
> is poorly covered where I live, so I haven't bothered with that.

So we should all come over and visit you to improve OSM-Coverage ;-)

-- 

J?rg

http://www.ostertag.name/

From gpsdrive at ostertag.name  Mon Jan 12 15:03:35 2009
From: gpsdrive at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany))
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:03:35 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Fwd: [GpsDrive-svn] SF.net SVN: gpsdrive:[2254]
	trunk/debian/control
Message-ID: <200901130103.31799.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>

On Dienstag 13 Januar 2009, Hamish wrote:
> Joerg wrote:
> > does someone have the time to adapt the cmake script to allig gda2
> > as well?
>
> I tried that, but it didn't work. My determination at the time (Sept 24)
> was that GDA2 would not work without rewriting the C code due to API
> changes, etc.
>
> > This way i hope we will be able to compile GpsDrive for debian etch too.
>
> I have compiled GpsDrive & created a .deb for Etch without Mapnik support.
>   http://hamish.bowman.googlepages.com/gpsdrivefiles#etch

Do you think there is a possibility to integrate this into the default package 
and only get it triggered if we compile on debian etch?

> The package there is SVN from ~1 month ago (pre-libgps?), I have made a
> new SVN .deb for Etch as recently as yesterday, but not uploaded it yet.
>
> IIRC you need newer Mapnik/OSM packages than are available for Etch, so
> would need to backport those as well to get GpsDrive+Mapnik on Etch. OSM
> is poorly covered where I live, so I haven't bothered with that.

So we should all come over and visit you to improve OSM-Coverage ;-)

-- 

J?rg (Germany, Tettnang)

http://www.ostertag.name/

From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Mon Jan 12 21:01:25 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:01:25 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Fwd: [GpsDrive-svn] SF.net SVN: gpsdrive:[2254]
	trunk/debian/control
In-Reply-To: <200901130102.43494.joerg@ostertag.name>
References: <326033.29802.qm@web110004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<200901130102.43494.joerg@ostertag.name>
Message-ID: <200901130701.24040.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Dienstag 13 Januar 2009 schrieb Joerg Ostertag (Tettnang):
> On Dienstag 13 Januar 2009, Hamish wrote:
> > Joerg wrote:
> > > does someone have the time to adapt the cmake script to allig gda2
> > > as well?
> >
> > I tried that, but it didn't work. My determination at the time (Sept 24)
> > was that GDA2 would not work without rewriting the C code due to API
> > changes, etc.
> >
> > > This way i hope we will be able to compile GpsDrive for debian etch
> > > too.
> >
> > I have compiled GpsDrive & created a .deb for Etch without Mapnik
> > support. http://hamish.bowman.googlepages.com/gpsdrivefiles#etch
>
> Do you think there is a possibility to integrate this into the default
> package and only get it triggered if we compile on debian etch?
>
I would generally find it more than useful, if we could provide at least two 
types of gpsdrive-packages: one full-featured package and one 'lite' package 
without mapnik and gda...

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From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Mon Jan 12 21:05:37 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:05:37 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] New debian repository Structure
In-Reply-To: <200901130050.25402.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
References: <200901130050.25402.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
Message-ID: <200901130705.42022.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Dienstag 13 Januar 2009 schrieb Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany):
> Hi all users of debian based systems,
>
> I started to use the new "build-cluster" here. So all the debian packages
> in the repository got a fresh new build.
>  - I also seperated etch and lenny.
>  - And started added some more platforms. (i386/amd64)
>  - Also started with Ubuntu builds.
> All this can now be installed by using the slightly modified sources.list.
> See:
> 	http://www.gpsdrive.de/development/debian.shtml
>
> More debian-based-compiles on the different platforms will follow these
> days/weeks/month.
>
fine!

could you then also provide packages in the sourceforge download section
(at least the pre and release ones)?


> Here are the still open combinations:
> debian-etch-32/debuild.results:   bad:   gpsdrive-svn utils gosmore josm
> merkaartor opencarbox-svn debian-lenny-32/debuild.results:   bad:  
> merkaartor opencarbox-svn debian-lenny-64/debuild.results:   bad:  
> opencarbox-svn
> ubuntu-hardy-32/debuild.results:   bad:   gpsdrive-svn maps merkaartor
> opencarbox-svn ubuntu-hardy-64/debuild.results:   bad:   gpsdrive-svn maps
> utils josm merkaartor opencarbox-svn ubuntu-intrepid-32/debuild.results:  
> bad:   maps opencarbox-svn
> ubuntu-intrepid-64/debuild.results:   bad:   maps utils merkaartor
> opencarbox-svn
what does that mean?


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From gpsdrive at ostertag.name  Mon Jan 12 21:11:57 2009
From: gpsdrive at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany))
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:11:57 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Fwd: [GpsDrive-svn] SF.net SVN: gpsdrive:[2254]
	trunk/debian/control
In-Reply-To: <200901130701.24040.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
References: <326033.29802.qm@web110004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<200901130102.43494.joerg@ostertag.name>
	<200901130701.24040.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <200901130711.49517.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>

On Dienstag 13 Januar 2009, Guenther Meyer wrote:
> Am Dienstag 13 Januar 2009 schrieb Joerg Ostertag (Tettnang):
> > On Dienstag 13 Januar 2009, Hamish wrote:
> > > Joerg wrote:
> > > > does someone have the time to adapt the cmake script to allig gda2
> > > > as well?
> > >
> > > I tried that, but it didn't work. My determination at the time (Sept
> > > 24) was that GDA2 would not work without rewriting the C code due to
> > > API changes, etc.
> > >
> > > > This way i hope we will be able to compile GpsDrive for debian etch
> > > > too.
> > >
> > > I have compiled GpsDrive & created a .deb for Etch without Mapnik
> > > support. http://hamish.bowman.googlepages.com/gpsdrivefiles#etch
> >
> > Do you think there is a possibility to integrate this into the default
> > package and only get it triggered if we compile on debian etch?
>
> I would generally find it more than useful, if we could provide at least
> two types of gpsdrive-packages: one full-featured package and one 'lite'
> package without mapnik and gda...

If anyone knows how to create different package types from either one commpile 
or from two different compile this would be a welcome info.

-- 

J?rg (Germany, Tettnang)

http://www.ostertag.name/

From gpsdrive at ostertag.name  Mon Jan 12 21:18:48 2009
From: gpsdrive at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany))
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:18:48 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] New debian repository Structure
In-Reply-To: <200901130705.42022.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
References: <200901130050.25402.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
	<200901130705.42022.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <200901130718.44307.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>

On Dienstag 13 Januar 2009, Guenther Meyer wrote:
> Am Dienstag 13 Januar 2009 schrieb Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive 
Tettnang/Germany):
> > Hi all users of debian based systems,
> >
> > I started to use the new "build-cluster" here. So all the debian packages
> > in the repository got a fresh new build.
> >  - I also seperated etch and lenny.
> >  - And started added some more platforms. (i386/amd64)
> >  - Also started with Ubuntu builds.
> > All this can now be installed by using the slightly modified
> > sources.list. See:
> > 	http://www.gpsdrive.de/development/debian.shtml
> >
> > More debian-based-compiles on the different platforms will follow these
> > days/weeks/month.
>
> fine!
>
> could you then also provide packages in the sourceforge download section
> (at least the pre and release ones)?
>
> > Here are the still open combinations:
> > debian-etch-32/debuild.results:   bad:   gpsdrive-svn utils gosmore josm
> > merkaartor opencarbox-svn debian-lenny-32/debuild.results:   bad:
> > merkaartor opencarbox-svn debian-lenny-64/debuild.results:   bad:
> > opencarbox-svn
> > ubuntu-hardy-32/debuild.results:   bad:   gpsdrive-svn maps merkaartor
> > opencarbox-svn ubuntu-hardy-64/debuild.results:   bad:   gpsdrive-svn
> > maps utils josm merkaartor opencarbox-svn
> > ubuntu-intrepid-32/debuild.results: bad:   maps opencarbox-svn
> > ubuntu-intrepid-64/debuild.results:   bad:   maps utils merkaartor
> > opencarbox-svn
>
> what does that mean?

The enumerated debian packages currently do not compile completeley on these 
platforms. It's always the platform in the first column and then the package 
names in the other columns.


-- 

J?rg (Germany, Tettnang)

http://www.ostertag.name/

From info at 4x4falcon.com  Mon Jan 12 21:55:51 2009
From: info at 4x4falcon.com (info at 4x4falcon.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:55:51 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Cmake direcives patch
Message-ID: <2773003649b06f64da728c6ff8988ab7.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>

Hi All,

Can someone please apply the attached patch to svn.

It only adds the cmake directives at the moment and implements them in the
CMakeLists file in src.

Once this is in then I'll make up the patch to modify the *.c and *.h
files to utilize the WITH_FRIENDS and WITH_KISMET (please dump the
previous patch I sent).



I've also got routing (the WITH_NAVIGATE directive) completed with gosmore
called from an external script.  Destination can be entered from a right
mouse click, from a poi search or from a database lookup.  It works with
mapnik generated map and raster maps.

I still need to check it live, will do it in the next couple of days. It
works if I provide a simulated gps input.

The search is not yet ideal but is working correctly.  I'd like to provide
more search options on the osmdata in the database.

This is a fairly major patch as it modifies about 5 files other than
navigation*.*

It will also need some install directives added so that the directory for
the navigation plugins will be created.

So if we want to hold of until the next pre or release then that's fine by
me as it gives me more time to clean up the destination search.


Regards
Ross
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From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Mon Jan 12 22:21:10 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 07:21:10 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Cmake direcives patch
In-Reply-To: <2773003649b06f64da728c6ff8988ab7.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
References: <2773003649b06f64da728c6ff8988ab7.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
Message-ID: <200901130821.12785.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Dienstag 13 Januar 2009 schrieb info at 4x4falcon.com:
> So if we want to hold of until the next pre or release then that's fine by
> me as it gives me more time to clean up the destination search.
>
thanks for your work!

if we want to get out a release soon, we should not include this major patch 
now. but we will do it definitely after the release...


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From info at 4x4falcon.com  Mon Jan 12 23:12:50 2009
From: info at 4x4falcon.com (info at 4x4falcon.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:12:50 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Cmake direcives patch
In-Reply-To: <200901130821.12785.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
References: <2773003649b06f64da728c6ff8988ab7.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<200901130821.12785.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <a2cf81266756d2e7ccd88e613f1a39b4.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>

> Am Dienstag 13 Januar 2009 schrieb info at 4x4falcon.com:
>> So if we want to hold of until the next pre or release then that's fine
>> by
>> me as it gives me more time to clean up the destination search.
>>
> thanks for your work!
>
> if we want to get out a release soon, we should not include this major
> patch
> now. but we will do it definitely after the release...
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> GPSdrive mailing list
> GPSdrive at lists.gpsdrivers.org
> http://lists.gpsdrivers.org/mailman/listinfo/gpsdrive

No problem.

I'll continue to work on the routing.

Any idea of when for the new release?

Cheers
Ross




From DeadlyAppearance at gmx.de  Tue Jan 13 03:20:41 2009
From: DeadlyAppearance at gmx.de (Aerics)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:20:41 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] [gpsdrive] ERROR: cannot create POI Database
Message-ID: <21433103.post@talk.nabble.com>


Good morning together.

I try to install gpsdrive and want to use the osm maps.
I use 
http://www.4x4falcon.com/bb/viewtopic.php?p=9&sid=e29021d2f42d45a77175e0ff78f7842d
this  how to to install everything.
To get the datas i use this command: sudo mapnik-osm-updater.sh
--all-planet-geofabrik=europe/germany/

Now i get this error:
Reading in file: /home/osm/osm/planet/hessen.osm.bz2
Processing: Node(1395k) Way(183k) Relation(1k)
Node stats: total(1395616), max(331630373)
Way stats: total(183255), max(30104150)
Relation stats: total(1055), max(67046)

Writing way(30k)


--------- Create GpsDrive POI-Database
gpsdrive-update-osm-poi-db v0.1

+ Initializing Database access
+ Creating osm database file: /usr/share/gpsdrive/osm.db
  Error while opening /usr/share/gpsdrive/osm.db: unable to open database
file
!!!!!!! ERROR: cannot create POI Database

I can find any help in google. How can i fix this error?


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From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Tue Jan 13 04:42:25 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:42:25 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] [gpsdrive] ERROR: cannot create POI Database
In-Reply-To: <21433103.post@talk.nabble.com>
References: <21433103.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <200901131442.20640.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Dienstag 13 Januar 2009 schrieb Aerics:
> Good morning together.
>
> I try to install gpsdrive and want to use the osm maps.
> I use
> http://www.4x4falcon.com/bb/viewtopic.php?p=9&sid=e29021d2f42d45a77175e0ff7
>8f7842d this  how to to install everything.
> To get the datas i use this command: sudo mapnik-osm-updater.sh
> --all-planet-geofabrik=europe/germany/
>
> Now i get this error:
> Reading in file: /home/osm/osm/planet/hessen.osm.bz2
> Processing: Node(1395k) Way(183k) Relation(1k)
> Node stats: total(1395616), max(331630373)
> Way stats: total(183255), max(30104150)
> Relation stats: total(1055), max(67046)
>
> Writing way(30k)
>
>
> --------- Create GpsDrive POI-Database
> gpsdrive-update-osm-poi-db v0.1
>
> + Initializing Database access
> + Creating osm database file: /usr/share/gpsdrive/osm.db
>   Error while opening /usr/share/gpsdrive/osm.db: unable to open database
> file
> !!!!!!! ERROR: cannot create POI Database
>
> I can find any help in google. How can i fix this error?

yes, there is an error in the script, my fault.


this patch should fix it:

Index: mapnik-osm-updater.sh
===================================================================
--- mapnik-osm-updater.sh	(Revision 13188)
+++ mapnik-osm-updater.sh	(Arbeitskopie)
@@ -683,7 +683,8 @@
     fi
     echo ""
     echo "--------- Create GpsDrive POI-Database"
-    bunzip2 -c $planet_file | $sudo_cmd $gpsdrive_poitypes_cmd -w -f 
$geoinfodb_file -o $osmdb_file STDIN
+    sudo mv $osmdb_file $osmdb_file.bak
+    bunzip2 -c $planet_file | sudo $gpsdrive_poitypes_cmd -w -f 
$geoinfodb_file -o $osmdb_file STDIN
     rc=$?
     if [ "$rc" -gt "0" ]; then
         echo "!!!!!!! ERROR: cannot create POI Database"



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From DeadlyAppearance at gmx.de  Tue Jan 13 05:11:00 2009
From: DeadlyAppearance at gmx.de (Aerics)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:11:00 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] ERROR: cannot create POI Database
In-Reply-To: <200901131442.20640.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
References: <21433103.post@talk.nabble.com>
	<200901131442.20640.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <21436463.post@talk.nabble.com>


How i can update the mapnik-osm-updater.sh?

I have installed everything over the gpsdrive Repository for intrepid
(Ubuntu).


Guenther Meyer wrote:
> 
> Am Dienstag 13 Januar 2009 schrieb Aerics:
>> Good morning together.
>>
>> I try to install gpsdrive and want to use the osm maps.
>> I use
>> http://www.4x4falcon.com/bb/viewtopic.php?p=9&sid=e29021d2f42d45a77175e0ff7
>>8f7842d this  how to to install everything.
>> To get the datas i use this command: sudo mapnik-osm-updater.sh
>> --all-planet-geofabrik=europe/germany/
>>
>> Now i get this error:
>> Reading in file: /home/osm/osm/planet/hessen.osm.bz2
>> Processing: Node(1395k) Way(183k) Relation(1k)
>> Node stats: total(1395616), max(331630373)
>> Way stats: total(183255), max(30104150)
>> Relation stats: total(1055), max(67046)
>>
>> Writing way(30k)
>>
>>
>> --------- Create GpsDrive POI-Database
>> gpsdrive-update-osm-poi-db v0.1
>>
>> + Initializing Database access
>> + Creating osm database file: /usr/share/gpsdrive/osm.db
>>   Error while opening /usr/share/gpsdrive/osm.db: unable to open database
>> file
>> !!!!!!! ERROR: cannot create POI Database
>>
>> I can find any help in google. How can i fix this error?
> 
> yes, there is an error in the script, my fault.
> 
> 
> this patch should fix it:
> 
> Index: mapnik-osm-updater.sh
> ===================================================================
> --- mapnik-osm-updater.sh	(Revision 13188)
> +++ mapnik-osm-updater.sh	(Arbeitskopie)
> @@ -683,7 +683,8 @@
>      fi
>      echo ""
>      echo "--------- Create GpsDrive POI-Database"
> -    bunzip2 -c $planet_file | $sudo_cmd $gpsdrive_poitypes_cmd -w -f 
> $geoinfodb_file -o $osmdb_file STDIN
> +    sudo mv $osmdb_file $osmdb_file.bak
> +    bunzip2 -c $planet_file | sudo $gpsdrive_poitypes_cmd -w -f 
> $geoinfodb_file -o $osmdb_file STDIN
>      rc=$?
>      if [ "$rc" -gt "0" ]; then
>          echo "!!!!!!! ERROR: cannot create POI Database"
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> _______________________________________________
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> GPSdrive at lists.gpsdrivers.org
> http://lists.gpsdrivers.org/mailman/listinfo/gpsdrive
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> 

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From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Tue Jan 13 05:30:26 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:30:26 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] ERROR: cannot create POI Database
In-Reply-To: <21436463.post@talk.nabble.com>
References: <21433103.post@talk.nabble.com>
	<200901131442.20640.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<21436463.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <200901131530.23014.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Dienstag 13 Januar 2009 schrieb Aerics:
> How i can update the mapnik-osm-updater.sh?
>
> I have installed everything over the gpsdrive Repository for intrepid
> (Ubuntu).
>
usually it's inside the package openstreetmap-utils

I uploaded the changed version to the server, but it can take some time, until 
joerg has built this package.

attached is the fixed version of the script.
just copy it to /usr/bin an it should work.



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From fdesarmes at monicash.ci  Tue Jan 13 05:33:04 2009
From: fdesarmes at monicash.ci (Desarmes)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:33:04 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Desinscription dans liste
Message-ID: <496CA5A5.7050004@monicash.ci>

Bonjour Monsieur,

Merci de bien vouloir me d?sinscrire sur la liste de diffusion.
Cela me pose quelques soucis avec notre systeme.

Cordialement.
DESARMES F.
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From jhs at berklix.org  Tue Jan 13 06:28:39 2009
From: jhs at berklix.org (Julian Stacey)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:28:39 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Desinscription dans liste
In-Reply-To: Your message "Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:31:01 GMT."
	<496CA5A5.7050004@monicash.ci> 
Message-ID: <200901131528.n0DFSSj7021962@fire.js.berklix.net>

Hi,
Reference:
> From:		Desarmes <fdesarmes at monicash.ci> 
> Reply-to:	fdesarmes at monicash.ci, GPSdrive discussion list <gpsdrive at lists.gpsdrivers.org> 
> Date:		Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:31:01 +0000 
> Message-id:	<496CA5A5.7050004 at monicash.ci> 

Desarmes wrote:
> 
> Bonjour Monsieur,
> 
> Merci de bien vouloir me d?sinscrire sur la liste de diffusion.
> Cela me pose quelques soucis avec notre systeme.
> 
> Cordialement.
> DESARMES F.

Use the robot to unsubscribe yourself,
like it says at foot of every list posting.

> _______________________________________________
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> GPSdrive at lists.gpsdrivers.org
> http://lists.gpsdrivers.org/mailman/listinfo/gpsdrive

Cheers,
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From mkomarinski at wayga.org  Tue Jan 13 06:33:51 2009
From: mkomarinski at wayga.org (Mark Komarinski)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:33:51 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] New debian repository Structure
In-Reply-To: <200901130050.25402.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
References: <200901130050.25402.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
Message-ID: <496CB452.9070509@wayga.org>

On 01/12/2009 06:50 PM, Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany) wrote:
> Hi all users of debian based systems,
>
> I started to use the new "build-cluster" here. So all the debian packages in the 
> repository got a fresh new build. 
>  - I also seperated etch and lenny.
>  - And started added some more platforms. (i386/amd64)
>  - Also started with Ubuntu builds.
> All this can now be installed by using the slightly modified sources.list.
> See:
> 	http://www.gpsdrive.de/development/debian.shtml
>   
Yay!  Thank you.

Initial testing on an Intrepid box is good, though I've compiled and 
installed so many various packages, I'm not sure what is where.  I'll do 
some testing on a virgin Intrepid box in a few days and report any 
problems I find.

-Mark

From DeadlyAppearance at gmx.de  Tue Jan 13 07:25:31 2009
From: DeadlyAppearance at gmx.de (Aerics)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:25:31 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] [gpsdrive] ERROR: cannot create POI Database
In-Reply-To: <21433103.post@talk.nabble.com>
References: <21433103.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <21439175.post@talk.nabble.com>


If i copy your script or open the old in nano and replace the text with the
new one i get this error:
aerics at aerics:~$ mapnik-osm-updater.sh --h
bash: /usr/bin/mapnik-osm-updater.sh: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No such
file or directory

If i only copy the pio procedure i don get this error but have an error like
eof.

What i do wrong here?
Why is linux much different from windows....
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From DeadlyAppearance at gmx.de  Tue Jan 13 09:16:13 2009
From: DeadlyAppearance at gmx.de (Aerics)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:16:13 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] [gpsdrive] ERROR: cannot create POI Database
In-Reply-To: <200901131530.23014.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
References: <21433103.post@talk.nabble.com>
	<200901131442.20640.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<21436463.post@talk.nabble.com>
	<200901131530.23014.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <21441339.post@talk.nabble.com>


Now i get this error and the map is only blue in gpsdrive.

Writing way(30k)


--------- aCreate GpsDrive POI-Database
gpsdrive-update-osm-poi-db v0.1

+ Initializing Database access
+ Creating osm database file: /usr/share/gpsdrive/osm.db
+ Reading POI types from gpsdrive geoinfo database
  137 known POI types found.
+ Parsing OSM file 'STDIN'
  Reached end of nodes, terminating...
  15274 of 891421 nodes identified as POI in 5:57 minutes
+ Creating new index on column 'poi'
+ Closing Database access

Finished.
: command not found-updater.sh: line 694: 


Guenther Meyer wrote:
> 
> Am Dienstag 13 Januar 2009 schrieb Aerics:
>> How i can update the mapnik-osm-updater.sh?
>>
>> I have installed everything over the gpsdrive Repository for intrepid
>> (Ubuntu).
>>
> usually it's inside the package openstreetmap-utils
> 
> I uploaded the changed version to the server, but it can take some time,
> until 
> joerg has built this package.
> 
> attached is the fixed version of the script.
> just copy it to /usr/bin an it should work.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
>  
> _______________________________________________
> GPSdrive mailing list
> GPSdrive at lists.gpsdrivers.org
> http://lists.gpsdrivers.org/mailman/listinfo/gpsdrive
> 
> 

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From gpsdrive at ostertag.name  Tue Jan 13 10:30:01 2009
From: gpsdrive at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany))
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:30:01 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] New debian repository Structure
In-Reply-To: <496CB452.9070509@wayga.org>
References: <200901130050.25402.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
	<496CB452.9070509@wayga.org>
Message-ID: <200901132029.52743.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>

On Dienstag 13 Januar 2009, Mark Komarinski wrote:
> On 01/12/2009 06:50 PM, Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany) wrote:
> > Hi all users of debian based systems,
> >
> > I started to use the new "build-cluster" here. So all the debian packages
> > in the repository got a fresh new build.
> >  - I also seperated etch and lenny.
> >  - And started added some more platforms. (i386/amd64)
> >  - Also started with Ubuntu builds.
> > All this can now be installed by using the slightly modified
> > sources.list. See:
> > 	http://www.gpsdrive.de/development/debian.shtml
>
> Yay!  Thank you.
>
> Initial testing on an Intrepid box is good, though I've compiled and
> installed so many various packages, I'm not sure what is where.  I'll do
> some testing on a virgin Intrepid box in a few days and report any
> problems I find.

Great to hear .... :-)


PS.: I just uploaded a new set of packages with the fix d.s.e. applied today. 
       Sadly now re-creating all packages takes 98 Minutes ... ;-)


-- 

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http://www.ostertag.name/

From gpsdrive at ostertag.name  Tue Jan 13 10:35:28 2009
From: gpsdrive at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany))
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:35:28 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] [gpsdrive] ERROR: cannot create POI Database
In-Reply-To: <21439175.post@talk.nabble.com>
References: <21433103.post@talk.nabble.com> <21439175.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <200901132035.24813.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>

On Dienstag 13 Januar 2009, Aerics wrote:
> If i copy your script or open the old in nano and replace the text with the
> new one i get this error:
> aerics at aerics:~$ mapnik-osm-updater.sh --h
> bash: /usr/bin/mapnik-osm-updater.sh: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No such
> file or directory
>
> If i only copy the pio procedure i don get this error but have an error
> like eof.
>
> What i do wrong here?
> Why is linux much different from windows....

This sounds like using an editor with wrong line endings ... Strange.

Just try the newly uploaded package; i just rebuildt it .

-- 

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http://www.ostertag.name/

From DeadlyAppearance at gmx.de  Tue Jan 13 13:37:41 2009
From: DeadlyAppearance at gmx.de (Aerics)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:37:41 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] ERROR: cannot create POI Database
In-Reply-To: <200901132035.24813.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
References: <21433103.post@talk.nabble.com> <21439175.post@talk.nabble.com>
	<200901132035.24813.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
Message-ID: <21446021.post@talk.nabble.com>


How i can download the new package?
I have reinstall gspdrive but i don`t get the new script.


Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany) wrote:
> 
> On Dienstag 13 Januar 2009, Aerics wrote:
>> If i copy your script or open the old in nano and replace the text with
>> the
>> new one i get this error:
>> aerics at aerics:~$ mapnik-osm-updater.sh --h
>> bash: /usr/bin/mapnik-osm-updater.sh: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No
>> such
>> file or directory
>>
>> If i only copy the pio procedure i don get this error but have an error
>> like eof.
>>
>> What i do wrong here?
>> Why is linux much different from windows....
> 
> This sounds like using an editor with wrong line endings ... Strange.
> 
> Just try the newly uploaded package; i just rebuildt it .
> 
> -- 
> 
> J?rg (Germany, Tettnang)
> 
> http://www.ostertag.name/
> _______________________________________________
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> GPSdrive at lists.gpsdrivers.org
> http://lists.gpsdrivers.org/mailman/listinfo/gpsdrive
> 
> 

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From hamish_b at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 13 14:27:14 2009
From: hamish_b at yahoo.com (Hamish)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:27:14 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Fwd: [GpsDrive-svn] SF.net SVN: gpsdrive:[2254]
	trunk/debian/control
In-Reply-To: <200901130102.43494.joerg@ostertag.name>
Message-ID: <852382.8943.qm@web110013.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hamish:
> > I have compiled GpsDrive & created a .deb for Etch without Mapnik
> > support [,GDA3,Speechd].
...
> > http://hamish.bowman.googlepages.com/gpsdrivefiles#etch
> >
> > The package there is SVN from ~1 month ago (pre-libgps?), I have made
> > a new SVN .deb for Etch as recently as yesterday, but not uploaded
> > it yet.

now updated to latest SVN.


Joerg Ostertag wrote:
> Do you think there is a possibility to integrate this into the default
> package and only get it triggered if we compile on debian etch?

sounds reasonable, but I don't know much about the howto.
test value in /etc/debian_version & if so apply patch?

patch to build minimal all-in-one package for Etch is attached.
(I don't bother with separate -maps package, etc.)
apply patch, run "debuild binary", done.

patch is for GpsDrive's SVN debian/ dir. I would like to keep in mind
ease of sync'ing with the DebianGIS packaging for the pre7 release so
it can go into sid as soon as lenny is out the door.


> > OSM is poorly covered where I live, so I haven't bothered with that.
> So we should all come over and visit you to improve OSM-Coverage ;-)

actually our (NZ) gov't has released full road/walking track/etc vectors
under a generous Free-with-attribution license, and AFAICT OSM upload/
integration waits on finalization of the internal OSM geodata license
debates.

raw GPX logs/"GPS Traces" for every road in the country has already been
uploaded to OSM (sourced from a diff't gov't roading dept). So I just
wait.... (and google has now published street-view for every road in the
country too!)


Hamish



      
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From hamish_b at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 13 17:52:19 2009
From: hamish_b at yahoo.com (Hamish)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:52:19 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Miles per hour
In-Reply-To: <200901052125.31771.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <190604.12448.qm@web110008.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

schrieb Paul Martin:
> > One little bug in the new code that uses libgps... it always returns
> > speeds in kph even when you're set to use miles. I had a little
> > surprise yesterday when I first used it in for real since the changes.

Guenther wrote:
> hmm, yes, I had some other changes in my mind when I wrote this part.
> I considered to change the gpsdrive code so that the variables always
> contain metric values, and that the conversion to something else is
> only done when needed for display. this should save some conversions
> during the calculations, I guess...
> 
> comments?

for historical perspective just to note that (like it or not) knots is
the native units of NMEA velocity data and traditional navigation.

whereas the "N" of NMEA stands for National (ie USA; owner of the sats)
whereas the "M" of NMEA stands for Marine (where knots is still king
  worldwide)

now we aren't parsing NMEA anymore, so we are not as tied to knots.


Hamish



      


From fdr at mytemyke.net  Tue Jan 13 19:13:57 2009
From: fdr at mytemyke.net (Doug Robinson)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 04:13:57 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Miles per hour
In-Reply-To: <190604.12448.qm@web110008.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <200901052125.31771.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<190604.12448.qm@web110008.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <fe4ac51e0901132013l391b620aje388c102f135d6d4@mail.gmail.com>

Aye Captain;
Indeed Spring is around the corner here on the North Coast, and the surf
will turn from hard to liquid shortly.  I would hope it would not only
display knots, but AIS targets (a hack of the friends tracker code perhaps),
and ENC charts which are free as in beer.  (Well, our tax dollars pay for
them).  That would just be a killer implementation worthy of a dvd all by
itself. yr ftfl svnt & Capt.

On Tu...
>
> >e, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Hamish <hamish_b at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> <snip>
>
> > comments?
>
> for historical perspective just to note that (like it or not) knots is
> the native units of NMEA velocity data and traditional navigation.
>
> whereas the "N" of NMEA stands for National (ie USA; owner of the sats)
> whereas the "M" of NMEA stands for Marine (where knots is still king
>  worldwide)
>
> now we aren't parsing NMEA anymore, so we are not as tied to knots.
>
>
> Hamish
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.gpsdrivers.org/mailman/listinfo/gpsdrive
>



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From fdr at mytemyke.net  Tue Jan 13 19:14:40 2009
From: fdr at mytemyke.net (Doug Robinson)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 04:14:40 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Miles per hour
In-Reply-To: <190604.12448.qm@web110008.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <200901052125.31771.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<190604.12448.qm@web110008.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <fe4ac51e0901132014m114c6af5m8f68f79f3f69a2b5@mail.gmail.com>

Aye Captain;
Indeed Spring is around the corner here on the North Coast, and the surf
will turn from hard to liquid shortly.  I would hope it would not only
display knots, but AIS targets (a hack of the friends tracker code perhaps),
and ENC charts which are free as in beer.  (Well, our tax dollars pay for
them).  That would just be a killer implementation worthy of a dvd all by
itself. yr ftfl svnt & Capt.

On Tu...
>
> >e, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Hamish <hamish_b at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> <snip>
>
> > comments?
>
> for historical perspective just to note that (like it or not) knots is
> the native units of NMEA velocity data and traditional navigation.
>
> whereas the "N" of NMEA stands for National (ie USA; owner of the sats)
> whereas the "M" of NMEA stands for Marine (where knots is still king
>  worldwide)
>
> now we aren't parsing NMEA anymore, so we are not as tied to knots.
>
>
> Hamish
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> GPSdrive mailing list
> GPSdrive at lists.gpsdrivers.org
> http://lists.gpsdrivers.org/mailman/listinfo/gpsdrive
>



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From gpsdrive at ostertag.name  Tue Jan 13 22:10:39 2009
From: gpsdrive at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany))
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:10:39 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] ERROR: cannot create POI Database
In-Reply-To: <21446021.post@talk.nabble.com>
References: <21433103.post@talk.nabble.com>
	<200901132035.24813.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
	<21446021.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <200901140810.35253.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>

On Dienstag 13 Januar 2009, Aerics wrote:
> How i can download the new package?
> I have reinstall gspdrive but i don`t get the new script.

I saw, that the build-cluster had a problem getting the new svn sources. I'll 
have a closer look at it tonight.

-
Joerg

From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Wed Jan 14 00:46:23 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:46:23 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Miles per hour
In-Reply-To: <190604.12448.qm@web110008.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <190604.12448.qm@web110008.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901141046.26077.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Mittwoch 14 Januar 2009 schrieb Hamish:
> for historical perspective just to note that (like it or not) knots is
> the native units of NMEA velocity data and traditional navigation.
>
> whereas the "N" of NMEA stands for National (ie USA; owner of the sats)
> whereas the "M" of NMEA stands for Marine (where knots is still king
>   worldwide)
>
> now we aren't parsing NMEA anymore, so we are not as tied to knots.
>
right.
libgps gives us meters per second, which also is the basic SI unit.
so we should stick to this internally.
we support output in knots anyway, so everything should be fine.



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From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Wed Jan 14 00:57:09 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:57:09 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Miles per hour
In-Reply-To: <fe4ac51e0901132013l391b620aje388c102f135d6d4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901052125.31771.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<190604.12448.qm@web110008.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<fe4ac51e0901132013l391b620aje388c102f135d6d4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901141057.14737.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Mittwoch 14 Januar 2009 schrieb Doug Robinson:
> Aye Captain;
> Indeed Spring is around the corner here on the North Coast, and the surf
> will turn from hard to liquid shortly.  I would hope it would not only
> display knots,
knots output should already work.

> but AIS targets (a hack of the friends tracker code 
> perhaps),
are these targets static or moving ones?
I remember, there was a discussion on the openstreetmap list some month ago...
if the targets are static, they could be included in their database.
if not, I see two possibilites:
- using a kind of friends server to provide the data
- having an external program, that gets those data from somehwere, and inserts
  it into the gpsdrive database temporarily

> and ENC charts which are free as in beer.  (Well, our tax dollars 
> pay for them).  That would just be a killer implementation worthy of a dvd
> all by itself. yr ftfl svnt & Capt.
>
are they available via wms?



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From jbglaw at lug-owl.de  Wed Jan 14 03:30:06 2009
From: jbglaw at lug-owl.de (Jan-Benedict Glaw)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:30:06 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Miles per hour
In-Reply-To: <200901141057.14737.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
References: <200901052125.31771.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<190604.12448.qm@web110008.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<fe4ac51e0901132013l391b620aje388c102f135d6d4@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901141057.14737.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <20090114123000.GD11087@lug-owl.de>

On Wed, 2009-01-14 10:57:10 +0100, Guenther Meyer <d.s.e at sordidmusic.com> wrote:
> Am Mittwoch 14 Januar 2009 schrieb Doug Robinson:
> > Aye Captain;
> > but AIS targets (a hack of the friends tracker code 
> > perhaps),
> are these targets static or moving ones?
> I remember, there was a discussion on the openstreetmap list some month ago...
> if the targets are static, they could be included in their database.
> if not, I see two possibilites:
> - using a kind of friends server to provide the data
> - having an external program, that gets those data from somehwere, and inserts
>   it into the gpsdrive database temporarily

AIS (at least in this usace scenario) basically is a tracker for ship
location, course and speed.  So it's a moving target. Usually.

MfG, JBG

-- 
      Jan-Benedict Glaw      jbglaw at lug-owl.de              +49-172-7608481
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From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Wed Jan 14 04:00:59 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:00:59 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Miles per hour
In-Reply-To: <20090114123000.GD11087@lug-owl.de>
References: <200901052125.31771.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<200901141057.14737.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<20090114123000.GD11087@lug-owl.de>
Message-ID: <200901141401.02348.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Mittwoch 14 Januar 2009 schrieb Jan-Benedict Glaw:
> On Wed, 2009-01-14 10:57:10 +0100, Guenther Meyer <d.s.e at sordidmusic.com> 
wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch 14 Januar 2009 schrieb Doug Robinson:
> > > Aye Captain;
> > > but AIS targets (a hack of the friends tracker code
> > > perhaps),
> >
> > are these targets static or moving ones?
> > I remember, there was a discussion on the openstreetmap list some month
> > ago... if the targets are static, they could be included in their
> > database. if not, I see two possibilites:
> > - using a kind of friends server to provide the data
> > - having an external program, that gets those data from somehwere, and
> > inserts it into the gpsdrive database temporarily
>
> AIS (at least in this usace scenario) basically is a tracker for ship
> location, course and speed.  So it's a moving target. Usually.
>
so maybe the best thing is to connect to an external application (something 
like gnuais?), that decodes the radio signals, like we do it with kismet...



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From chris123 at magma.ca  Wed Jan 14 04:14:23 2009
From: chris123 at magma.ca (Chris h)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:14:23 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Miles per hour
In-Reply-To: <200901141057.14737.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
References: <200901052125.31771.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<fe4ac51e0901132013l391b620aje388c102f135d6d4@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901141057.14737.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <200901140814.18478.chris123@magma.ca>

On Wednesday 14 January 2009 04:57:10 Guenther Meyer wrote:

> are they available via wms?

http://ocs-spatial.ncd.noaa.gov/wmsconnector/com.esri.wms.Esrimap/encdirect? 
Service=WMS&Version=1.1.1&Request=GetCapabilities 

Now if gdal support for wms is working up to snuff, we may have a very cool 
solution.


-- 
/ch

From fdr at mytemyke.net  Wed Jan 14 06:34:07 2009
From: fdr at mytemyke.net (Doug Robinson)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:34:07 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Miles per hour
In-Reply-To: <200901140814.18478.chris123@magma.ca>
References: <200901052125.31771.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<fe4ac51e0901132013l391b620aje388c102f135d6d4@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901141057.14737.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<200901140814.18478.chris123@magma.ca>
Message-ID: <fe4ac51e0901140734i75d1ba3at735d3583cdde6e88@mail.gmail.com>

AIS traffic comes from a radio receiver via a serial link most generally.
 Could be integrated using a Bluetooth stream as well.  As I understand it
class A traffic (the big ships), transmit position twice a minute and
generally are moving @ 5 to 25 knots.  Class B traffic (us little guys), are
transmitting once a minute and could be at 6 knots for the rag driven and
35+ knots for the stink pots.  Guess I would recast the incoming traffic
from AIS into the existing GPSDrive format as data off the friends server
and have a look.  US govt has finally adopted the Class B standard (better
late than never) and receivers are on the market from $189 and up.To see a
display of the results look here:
http://marinetraffic.com/ais/default.aspx?centerx=30&centery=25&zoom=2&level1=140

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Chris h <chris123 at magma.ca> wrote:

> On Wednesday 14 January 2009 04:57:10 Guenther Meyer wrote:
>
> > are they available via wms?
>
> http://ocs-spatial.ncd.noaa.gov/wmsconnector/com.esri.wms.Esrimap/encdirect
> ?
> Service=WMS&Version=1.1.1&Request=GetCapabilities
>
> Now if gdal support for wms is working up to snuff, we may have a very cool
> solution.
>
>
> --
> /ch
> _______________________________________________
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> GPSdrive at lists.gpsdrivers.org
> http://lists.gpsdrivers.org/mailman/listinfo/gpsdrive
>



-- 
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From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Wed Jan 14 08:42:31 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:42:31 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] making use of AIS data
In-Reply-To: <fe4ac51e0901140734i75d1ba3at735d3583cdde6e88@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901052125.31771.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<200901140814.18478.chris123@magma.ca>
	<fe4ac51e0901140734i75d1ba3at735d3583cdde6e88@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901141842.35809.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Mittwoch 14 Januar 2009 schrieb Doug Robinson:
> AIS traffic comes from a radio receiver via a serial link most generally.
>  Could be integrated using a Bluetooth stream as well.  As I understand it
> class A traffic (the big ships), transmit position twice a minute and
> generally are moving @ 5 to 25 knots.  Class B traffic (us little guys),
> are transmitting once a minute and could be at 6 knots for the rag driven
> and 35+ knots for the stink pots.  Guess I would recast the incoming
> traffic from AIS into the existing GPSDrive format as data off the friends
> server and have a look.

I guess, the data is coming from a local receiver connected to the computer, 
and not from an internet connection.
so it would be very easy to include this, if the application, that reads the 
data can write directly to the gpsdrive database as POI data, or gpsdrive 
connects in some way to this application.

I would suggest a poi type 'nautical.ais' for that, having additional 
subtypes, if the data is specified more exactly, like:
nautical.ais.port
nautical.ais.passenger_vessel
nautical.ais.cargo_vessel
nautical.ais.tanker
...






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From fdr at mytemyke.net  Wed Jan 14 09:10:11 2009
From: fdr at mytemyke.net (Doug Robinson)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:10:11 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] making use of AIS data
In-Reply-To: <200901141842.35809.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
References: <200901052125.31771.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<200901140814.18478.chris123@magma.ca>
	<fe4ac51e0901140734i75d1ba3at735d3583cdde6e88@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901141842.35809.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <fe4ac51e0901141010w507ce23dw77a753886d374d56@mail.gmail.com>

Internet links are tough to find offshore, and I think data from them would
be difficult to integrate since it is in display format already.  Data
coming from the receiver is delivered in some kind of sentence format
already.  It just has to be interpreted and combined with the gpsd
sentences.  Multiplexers are commonly sold to the sailors just for this
task. One of many:
www.marinetalk.com/articles-marine-companies/art/New-Multiplexer-for-Nautical-Instruments-THE18494616TU.html
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Guenther Meyer <d.s.e at sordidmusic.com>wrote:

> Am Mittwoch 14 Januar 2009 schrieb Doug Robinson:
> > AIS traffic comes from a radio receiver via a serial link most generally.
> >  Could be integrated using a Bluetooth stream as well.  As I understand
> it
> > class A traffic (the big ships), transmit position twice a minute and
> > generally are moving @ 5 to 25 knots.  Class B traffic (us little guys),
> > are transmitting once a minute and could be at 6 knots for the rag driven
> > and 35+ knots for the stink pots.  Guess I would recast the incoming
> > traffic from AIS into the existing GPSDrive format as data off the
> friends
> > server and have a look.
>
> I guess, the data is coming from a local receiver connected to the
> computer,
> and not from an internet connection.
> so it would be very easy to include this, if the application, that reads
> the
> data can write directly to the gpsdrive database as POI data, or gpsdrive
> connects in some way to this application.
>
> I would suggest a poi type 'nautical.ais' for that, having additional
> subtypes, if the data is specified more exactly, like:
> nautical.ais.port
> nautical.ais.passenger_vessel
> nautical.ais.cargo_vessel
> nautical.ais.tanker
> ...
> Yes:

  Ports  Stations
 Passenger Vessels
 Cargo Vessels
 Tankers
 High Speed Craft
 Tug, Pilot, etc
 Yachts & Others
 Navigation Aids
 Unspecified Ships
 Ships Underway
 Anchored/Moored
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> GPSdrive at lists.gpsdrivers.org
> http://lists.gpsdrivers.org/mailman/listinfo/gpsdrive
>
>


-- 
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From howardf42 at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 12:25:05 2009
From: howardf42 at gmail.com (Howard Feldstein)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:25:05 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] beginner questions
Message-ID: <6437df320901141325va984a98v8b3f3d473f072a42@mail.gmail.com>

I'm just getting started with GPS on my eeePC running eeebuntu.  I have gpsd
and gpsdrive loaded and I have a DeLorme LT40 receiver plugged in and
running (according to dmesg).  When I run gpsdrive, no GPS is detected.  Do
you have any suggestion as to how I can check this out and get this running?

Thanks,

Howard Feldstein

Yes we can!
Yes we did!
Yes we will!

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From qwandor at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 12:34:53 2009
From: qwandor at gmail.com (Andrew Walbran)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:34:53 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] beginner questions
In-Reply-To: <6437df320901141325va984a98v8b3f3d473f072a42@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6437df320901141325va984a98v8b3f3d473f072a42@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <177c8c850901141334g15dfb9bdr78bba149a1e487bc@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Howard Feldstein <howardf42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm just getting started with GPS on my eeePC running eeebuntu.  I have gpsd
> and gpsdrive loaded and I have a DeLorme LT40 receiver plugged in and
> running (according to dmesg).  When I run gpsdrive, no GPS is detected.  Do
> you have any suggestion as to how I can check this out and get this running?
When you say it is 'running', have you started gpsd? For me with a
bluetooth GPS I have to do
$ gpsd /dev/rfcomm0
If you have a serial or USB GPS the device will be slightly different,
but hopefully dmesg will tell you what it is called.
If gpsd is running but gpsdrive does not detect it, then see if one of
the basic clients works with it, such as xgps.

-- 
Andrew Walbran
website: http://q.geek.nz/
blog: http://qwandor.wordpress.com/

From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Wed Jan 14 12:44:16 2009
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:44:16 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] beginner questions
In-Reply-To: <6437df320901141325va984a98v8b3f3d473f072a42@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6437df320901141325va984a98v8b3f3d473f072a42@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090114214413.GB14045@charlescurley.com>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 03:25:02PM -0600, Howard Feldstein wrote:
> I'm just getting started with GPS on my eeePC running eeebuntu.  I have gpsd
> and gpsdrive loaded and I have a DeLorme LT40 receiver plugged in and running
> (according to dmesg).  When I run gpsdrive, no GPS is detected.  Do you have
> any suggestion as to how I can check this out and get this running?

First, install gpsd-clients. Then use xgps to verify the correct
operation of gpsd.

You may have to muck around with the setup ("dpkg-reconfigure gps") so
that gpsd finds the receiver. See /etc/default/gpsd for the options
available.

For more information, "man gpsd" and http://gpsd.berlios.de/

Only then should you bother with gpsdrive.

This should be a FAQ if it isn't already.

-- 

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From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Wed Jan 14 13:04:18 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:04:18 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] beginner questions
In-Reply-To: <6437df320901141325va984a98v8b3f3d473f072a42@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6437df320901141325va984a98v8b3f3d473f072a42@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901142304.22733.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Mittwoch 14 Januar 2009 schrieb Howard Feldstein:
> I'm just getting started with GPS on my eeePC running eeebuntu.  I have
> gpsd and gpsdrive loaded and I have a DeLorme LT40 receiver plugged in and
> running (according to dmesg).  When I run gpsdrive, no GPS is detected.  Do
> you have any suggestion as to how I can check this out and get this
> running?
>
which version of gpsdrive?

does xgps or one of the other gpsd-clients give you some output?


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From hamish_b at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 14 13:25:12 2009
From: hamish_b at yahoo.com (Hamish)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:25:12 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] WITH_MYDEBUG
Message-ID: <20090115112507.a19f714a.hamish_b@yahoo.com>

Hi,

Revision: 2260
  trunk/DefineOptions.cmake
...
+option(WITH_MYDEBUG "Build with debug -D support" OFF)
...

what's the point of this? AFAICT there is no #ifdef MYDEBUG in the
code, so adding -DMYDEBUG has no effect. (nor permanent #ifdef DEBUG
for that matter)

Also I would think that "WITH_*" would usually be reserved for "with
support for some <packagename>, ie not some general preproc flag.
so FRIENDSD and NAVIGATE, (+KISMET ?) would not get WITH_.
??

and probably not bother with setting -DKISMET until that actually exists
in the code.


just trying to reduce the noise,
Hamish

From info at 4x4falcon.com  Wed Jan 14 13:40:20 2009
From: info at 4x4falcon.com (info at 4x4falcon.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:40:20 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] WITH_MYDEBUG
In-Reply-To: <20090115112507.a19f714a.hamish_b@yahoo.com>
References: <20090115112507.a19f714a.hamish_b@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <62528c0e2d1d657c40ae3f7cbace443a.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>

Hi Hamish,

I have a complete rewrite of all source with the compiler directives

#ifdef MYDEBUG
#ifdef FRIENDSD
#ifdef KISMET
#ifdef NAVIGATE

included so that the program can be built with/without these.

I am not uploading them at the moment as there appears to be consensus for
a new release.

Once that's done then I will start uploading the files.

The MYDEBUG removes all the:

if (mydebug > ...

code.

This helps make the program more responsive (particularly to
touchscreen/mouse clicks) and reduces the binary file by 30k (with MYDEBUG
off).

Cheers
Ross


> Hi,
>
> Revision: 2260
>   trunk/DefineOptions.cmake
> ...
> +option(WITH_MYDEBUG "Build with debug -D support" OFF)
> ...
>
> what's the point of this? AFAICT there is no #ifdef MYDEBUG in the
> code, so adding -DMYDEBUG has no effect. (nor permanent #ifdef DEBUG
> for that matter)
>
> Also I would think that "WITH_*" would usually be reserved for "with
> support for some <packagename>, ie not some general preproc flag.
> so FRIENDSD and NAVIGATE, (+KISMET ?) would not get WITH_.
> ??
>
> and probably not bother with setting -DKISMET until that actually exists
> in the code.
>
>
> just trying to reduce the noise,
> Hamish
> _______________________________________________
> GPSdrive mailing list
> GPSdrive at lists.gpsdrivers.org
> http://lists.gpsdrivers.org/mailman/listinfo/gpsdrive
>



From info at 4x4falcon.com  Wed Jan 14 13:47:17 2009
From: info at 4x4falcon.com (info at 4x4falcon.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:47:17 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] WITH_MYDEBUG
In-Reply-To: <20090115112507.a19f714a.hamish_b@yahoo.com>
References: <20090115112507.a19f714a.hamish_b@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <dd05b6efdbf0b6a761557e6f5e9a3b19.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>

Forgot to say also that it's the first time I've uploaded directly to svn
so I used a small non intrusive file to make sure that I had it right
before uploading anything really important.

Cheers
Ross

> Hi,
>
> Revision: 2260
>   trunk/DefineOptions.cmake
> ...
> +option(WITH_MYDEBUG "Build with debug -D support" OFF)
> ...
>
> what's the point of this? AFAICT there is no #ifdef MYDEBUG in the
> code, so adding -DMYDEBUG has no effect. (nor permanent #ifdef DEBUG
> for that matter)
>
> Also I would think that "WITH_*" would usually be reserved for "with
> support for some <packagename>, ie not some general preproc flag.
> so FRIENDSD and NAVIGATE, (+KISMET ?) would not get WITH_.
> ??
>
> and probably not bother with setting -DKISMET until that actually exists
> in the code.
>
>
> just trying to reduce the noise,
> Hamish
> _______________________________________________
> GPSdrive mailing list
> GPSdrive at lists.gpsdrivers.org
> http://lists.gpsdrivers.org/mailman/listinfo/gpsdrive
>



From hamish_b at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 14 15:04:54 2009
From: hamish_b at yahoo.com (Hamish)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:04:54 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] making use of AIS data
In-Reply-To: <fe4ac51e0901141010w507ce23dw77a753886d374d56@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <336189.40783.qm@web110009.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Doug wrote:
> AIS targets (a hack of the friends tracker code perhaps),

Guenther:
>> are these targets static or moving ones?

they are moving targets highly similar to friendsd blips.
It is real-time position and speed+direction data for ships,
which are typically traveling much faster than you are (so
static representation is dangerous).

if integrated into a NMEA stream with a multiplexer, we need to
start parsing NMEA again. an alternative is to patch/add AIS
support into GPSD (a reoccurring request on their ML AFAICT).


>> [...], I see two possibilites:
>> - using a kind of friends server to provide the data

yes please (or integrate it into/reuse friendsd display code)

>> - having an external program, that gets those data from
>>   somehwere, and inserts it into the gpsdrive database
>>   temporarily

mmmph, vulnerable to left-over cruft in the DB, etc., and relies
on our timeout loop too much.  no thanks


Doug:
> and ENC charts which are free as in beer.

Guenther:
>> are they available via wms?

yes-

Chris h:
>>> http://ocs-spatial.ncd.noaa.gov/wmsconnector/com.esri.wms.Esrimap/encdirect?
Service=WMS&Version=1.1.1&Request=GetCapabilities

but noaa's WMS renders them as rather ugly raster bitmaps and
raster navigation charts (RNCs) + gdal_slice.sh is currently the
best option here.

Chris:
>>> Now if gdal support for wms is working up to snuff, we may
>>> have a very cool solution.

We don't need GDAL support for WMS. You can give enough data 
directly in the WMS request URL to form a nice gpsdrive backdrop
tile. This is exactly what we do for the NASA LANDSAT downloads
in Options->Maps->Downloads.

FWIW for the WMS raster driver in GDAL 1.5 and newer you create
a small ~10 line XML file with the request details and it works
from that.


For ENC support in GpsDrive it is still my hope that libS52
could be used to render the data, in a similar way as Mapnik
is rendering OSM data now.

see http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/gpsdrive/index.php?title=Marine_Howto
  (please help improve the wiki page!)

http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/BSB_data
http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/S-57_data#libS52
http://openev.cvs.sourceforge.net/openev/contrib/S52/


In the short term, download of rasterized backdrop tiles from
NOAA's WMS could be easily added as a copy of gpsfetchmap.pl's
landsat_url() subroutine with different base URL and layer
names. (or in map_download.c, but I'd prefer to see a prototype
running in gpsfetchmap.pl first.

the very tricky bit is choosing which layers to include. the S-52
gives recommendations of which features to display based on map
scale class, I'd say reuse those. But you would have to enter
that data by hand. If someone provides a list of layernames
per scale band, I might do the rest.


Hamish



      


From D.Bannon at vpac.org  Wed Jan 14 16:11:17 2009
From: D.Bannon at vpac.org (David Bannon)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:11:17 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] beginner questions
In-Reply-To: <6437df320901141325va984a98v8b3f3d473f072a42@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6437df320901141325va984a98v8b3f3d473f072a42@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1231981860.6032.123.camel@dbannon-laptop>


Try running gpsd in interactive mode -

gpsd -Nn /dev/ttyUSB0

It will send what it gets from the GPS to the screen.

David




On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 15:25 -0600, Howard Feldstein wrote:
> I'm just getting started with GPS on my eeePC running eeebuntu.  I
> have gpsd and gpsdrive loaded and I have a DeLorme LT40 receiver
> plugged in and running (according to dmesg).  When I run gpsdrive, no
> GPS is detected.  Do you have any suggestion as to how I can check
> this out and get this running?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Howard Feldstein
> 
> Yes we can!
> Yes we did!
> Yes we will!
> 
> www.DemocratsAbroad.org/group/Mexico
> _______________________________________________
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> GPSdrive at lists.gpsdrivers.org
> http://lists.gpsdrivers.org/mailman/listinfo/gpsdrive


From DeadlyAppearance at gmx.de  Wed Jan 14 17:14:55 2009
From: DeadlyAppearance at gmx.de (Aerics)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:14:55 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] [gpsdrive] How i can change the incon from
	kismet-waypoints?
Message-ID: <21469471.post@talk.nabble.com>


Good evening.

Today, after i have finished the installation with osm i go wardriving with
kismet.
I store the waypoints in the way.txt, because gpsdrive don`t detect my sql
server.

But at the moment i see the SSID for every waypoint and a small cross. I
only want to see a icon without
any text.
And how can i change the icons for open and closed access points?

Is it normal, that gpsdrive is really slow, if you have about 1600 waypoints
in the txt?
I uncheck the show waypoints, but i see all the time the kismet waypoints. I
think something go wrong here.

Greetings
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From DeadlyAppearance at gmx.de  Wed Jan 14 17:15:41 2009
From: DeadlyAppearance at gmx.de (Aerics)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:15:41 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] [gpsdrive] How i can change the icon from
	kismet-waypoints?
Message-ID: <21469471.post@talk.nabble.com>


Good evening.

Today, after i have finished the installation with osm i go wardriving with
kismet.
I store the waypoints in the way.txt, because gpsdrive don`t detect my sql
server.

But at the moment i see the SSID for every waypoint and a small cross. I
only want to see a icon without
any text.
And how can i change the icons for open and closed access points?

Is it normal, that gpsdrive is really slow, if you have about 1600 waypoints
in the txt?
I uncheck the show waypoints, but i see all the time the kismet waypoints. I
think something go wrong here.

Greetings
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From hamish_b at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 14 17:41:55 2009
From: hamish_b at yahoo.com (Hamish)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:41:55 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] add POI to a route
Message-ID: <20090115154151.fcac5714.hamish_b@yahoo.com>

Hi,

I seem to have gotten a bit confused.

How do you add POI to a new route?


Following the man page (which I'm pretty sure I tested a couple months
ago when I rewrote it), [Find]->[Find], [+ Edit route], then select some
POI, and [Select Target]; select some POI, and [Select Target]; etc.

but it doesn't work anymore.


I am not sure if I am now doing it wrong or some code changed.

??,
Hamish

From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Wed Jan 14 20:37:57 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 05:37:57 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] WITH_MYDEBUG
In-Reply-To: <20090115112507.a19f714a.hamish_b@yahoo.com>
References: <20090115112507.a19f714a.hamish_b@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901150637.59844.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Mittwoch 14 Januar 2009 schrieb Hamish:
> Hi,
>
> Revision: 2260
>   trunk/DefineOptions.cmake
> ...
> +option(WITH_MYDEBUG "Build with debug -D support" OFF)
> ...
>
> what's the point of this? AFAICT there is no #ifdef MYDEBUG in the
> code, so adding -DMYDEBUG has no effect. (nor permanent #ifdef DEBUG
> for that matter)
>
> Also I would think that "WITH_*" would usually be reserved for "with
> support for some <packagename>, ie not some general preproc flag.
> so FRIENDSD and NAVIGATE, (+KISMET ?) would not get WITH_.
> ??
>
I would prefer to have WITH_ for switching separate features,
and no WITH_ for special feature independent compile modes (like MAEMO or 
DEBUG)...


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From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Wed Jan 14 20:42:43 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 05:42:43 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] WITH_MYDEBUG
In-Reply-To: <62528c0e2d1d657c40ae3f7cbace443a.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
References: <20090115112507.a19f714a.hamish_b@yahoo.com>
	<62528c0e2d1d657c40ae3f7cbace443a.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
Message-ID: <200901150642.49486.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Mittwoch 14 Januar 2009 schrieb info at 4x4falcon.com:
> Hi Hamish,
>
> I have a complete rewrite of all source with the compiler directives
>
> #ifdef MYDEBUG
> #ifdef FRIENDSD
> #ifdef KISMET
> #ifdef NAVIGATE
>
> included so that the program can be built with/without these.
>
> I am not uploading them at the moment as there appears to be consensus for
> a new release.
>
> Once that's done then I will start uploading the files.
>
> The MYDEBUG removes all the:
>
> if (mydebug > ...
>
> code.
>
if it REMOVES this code, I would call the directive NODEBUG.

> This helps make the program more responsive (particularly to
> touchscreen/mouse clicks) and reduces the binary file by 30k (with MYDEBUG
> off).
>
sounds reasonable.
but does this really matter on todays computers? maybe this only makes sense 
on devices with limited resources.
optimization generally is a good thing, but it can make it very difficult for 
us to help a user with a problem, if he can't give us any debug messages...


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From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Wed Jan 14 20:53:01 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 05:53:01 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] [gpsdrive] How i can change the icon from
	kismet-waypoints?
In-Reply-To: <21469471.post@talk.nabble.com>
References: <21469471.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <200901150653.02420.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Donnerstag 15 Januar 2009 schrieb Aerics:
> Good evening.
>
> Today, after i have finished the installation with osm i go wardriving with
> kismet.
> I store the waypoints in the way.txt, because gpsdrive don`t detect my sql
> server.
>
which gpsdrive version are you using?
gpsdrive don't use mysql anymore.

> But at the moment i see the SSID for every waypoint and a small cross. I
> only want to see a icon without
> any text.
> And how can i change the icons for open and closed access points?
>
> Is it normal, that gpsdrive is really slow, if you have about 1600
> waypoints in the txt?
I never tested this, but the txt file isn't made to be used with so much 
points. please use the database for this.


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From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Wed Jan 14 20:56:43 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 05:56:43 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] add POI to a route
In-Reply-To: <20090115154151.fcac5714.hamish_b@yahoo.com>
References: <20090115154151.fcac5714.hamish_b@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901150656.43147.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Donnerstag 15 Januar 2009 schrieb Hamish:
> Hi,
>
> I seem to have gotten a bit confused.
>
> How do you add POI to a new route?
>
>
> Following the man page (which I'm pretty sure I tested a couple months
> ago when I rewrote it), [Find]->[Find], [+ Edit route], then select some
> POI, and [Select Target]; select some POI, and [Select Target]; etc.
>
when you click on 'edit route', all entries, that are clicked in the list are 
directly added to the route. you don't have to press 'select target' or 
something.

> I am not sure if I am now doing it wrong or some code changed.
>
afaik this has always worked this way...


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From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Wed Jan 14 21:06:31 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 06:06:31 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] making use of AIS data
In-Reply-To: <336189.40783.qm@web110009.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <336189.40783.qm@web110009.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901150706.36195.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Donnerstag 15 Januar 2009 schrieb Hamish:
> Doug wrote:
> > AIS targets (a hack of the friends tracker code perhaps),
>
> Guenther:
> >> are these targets static or moving ones?
>
> they are moving targets highly similar to friendsd blips.
> It is real-time position and speed+direction data for ships,
> which are typically traveling much faster than you are (so
> static representation is dangerous).
>
> if integrated into a NMEA stream with a multiplexer, we need to
> start parsing NMEA again.
not good.

> an alternative is to patch/add AIS 
> support into GPSD (a reoccurring request on their ML AFAICT).
>
maybe we can utilize something like http://gnuais.sourceforge.net/ for this?

> >> [...], I see two possibilites:
> >> - using a kind of friends server to provide the data
>
> yes please (or integrate it into/reuse friendsd display code)
>
I would prefer to integrate this separately but by reusing the friends code, 
so that one can choose not to compile in support for friends and ais 
separately.

> >> - having an external program, that gets those data from
> >>   somehwere, and inserts it into the gpsdrive database
> >>   temporarily
>
> mmmph, vulnerable to left-over cruft in the DB, etc., and relies
> on our timeout loop too much.  no thanks
>
this external tool would also have to take care of this, like gpsdrive already 
does for the friends data (can be optimized maybe).


> We don't need GDAL support for WMS. You can give enough data
> directly in the WMS request URL to form a nice gpsdrive backdrop
> tile. This is exactly what we do for the NASA LANDSAT downloads
> in Options->Maps->Downloads.
>
this is the current way...

> FWIW for the WMS raster driver in GDAL 1.5 and newer you create
> a small ~10 line XML file with the request details and it works
> from that.
>
...and that could be an interesting alternative in the future to support any 
wms server, that wants to be used by someone, and without including them all 
into the code.




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From gpsdrive at ostertag.name  Wed Jan 14 22:00:37 2009
From: gpsdrive at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany))
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:00:37 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Error in compile ...'DASH_XTE' undeclared
Message-ID: <200901150800.18808.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>

This seems to be newly introduced ...

/home/tweety/gpsdrive-svn/src/main_gui.c:1097: error: 'DASH_XTE' undeclared 
(first use in this function)

-- 

J?rg (Germany, Tettnang)

http://www.ostertag.name/

From info at 4x4falcon.com  Wed Jan 14 22:00:55 2009
From: info at 4x4falcon.com (Ross Scanlon)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:00:55 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] WITH_MYDEBUG
In-Reply-To: <200901150642.49486.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
References: <20090115112507.a19f714a.hamish_b@yahoo.com>
	<62528c0e2d1d657c40ae3f7cbace443a.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<200901150642.49486.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <20090115170050.767fc24f@linus.theinternethost.com.au>

On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 06:42:49 +0100
Guenther Meyer <d.s.e at sordidmusic.com> wrote:

> >
> if it REMOVES this code, I would call the directive NODEBUG.

Ok.

I've changed it to DEBUG, similar to the MAEMO directive but it defaults to ON.

So the the cmake directive would be -DDEBUG=OFF to compile without all the code which references the variable mydebug and outputs debug messages.

> > This helps make the program more responsive (particularly to
> > touchscreen/mouse clicks) and reduces the binary file by 30k (with MYDEBUG
> > off).
> >
> sounds reasonable.
> but does this really matter on todays computers? maybe this only makes sense 
> on devices with limited resources.
> optimization generally is a good thing, but it can make it very difficult for 
> us to help a user with a problem, if he can't give us any debug messages...

On all my computers (desktop/laptop/vehicle these are all top end machines) gpsdrive will miss mouse and touchscreen clicks, keyboard is ok.  By removing the debug code they are missed less often. Likewise by removing the extra timer required for the friends info then the missed clicks are less again.

Cheers
Ross



From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Wed Jan 14 22:25:01 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:25:01 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] WITH_MYDEBUG
In-Reply-To: <20090115170050.767fc24f@linus.theinternethost.com.au>
References: <20090115112507.a19f714a.hamish_b@yahoo.com>
	<200901150642.49486.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<20090115170050.767fc24f@linus.theinternethost.com.au>
Message-ID: <200901150825.05648.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Donnerstag 15 Januar 2009 schrieb Ross Scanlon:
> I've changed it to DEBUG, similar to the MAEMO directive but it defaults to
> ON.
>
> So the the cmake directive would be -DDEBUG=OFF to compile without all the
> code which references the variable mydebug and outputs debug messages.
>
great!

> > > This helps make the program more responsive (particularly to
> > > touchscreen/mouse clicks) and reduces the binary file by 30k (with
> > > MYDEBUG off).
> >
> > sounds reasonable.
> > but does this really matter on todays computers? maybe this only makes
> > sense on devices with limited resources.
> > optimization generally is a good thing, but it can make it very difficult
> > for us to help a user with a problem, if he can't give us any debug
> > messages...
>
> On all my computers (desktop/laptop/vehicle these are all top end machines)
> gpsdrive will miss mouse and touchscreen clicks, keyboard is ok.  By
> removing the debug code they are missed less often. Likewise by removing
> the extra timer required for the friends info then the missed clicks are
> less again.
>
ok.
I think, there could be done a lot of optimization regarding all the timers 
and periodically called functions. maybe this can be cleaned up after the 
2.10 release.




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From DeadlyAppearance at gmx.de  Thu Jan 15 02:03:59 2009
From: DeadlyAppearance at gmx.de (Aerics)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 11:03:59 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] How i can change the icon from kismet-waypoints?
In-Reply-To: <200901150653.02420.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
References: <21469471.post@talk.nabble.com>
	<200901150653.02420.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <21475471.post@talk.nabble.com>


I use the version 2.10 pre7.

Hmm, you said gpsdrive don`t use mysql and now you say is must use a db for
gpsdrive with kismet.



Guenther Meyer wrote:
> 
> Am Donnerstag 15 Januar 2009 schrieb Aerics:
>> Good evening.
>>
>> Today, after i have finished the installation with osm i go wardriving
>> with
>> kismet.
>> I store the waypoints in the way.txt, because gpsdrive don`t detect my
>> sql
>> server.
>>
> which gpsdrive version are you using?
> gpsdrive don't use mysql anymore.
> 
>> But at the moment i see the SSID for every waypoint and a small cross. I
>> only want to see a icon without
>> any text.
>> And how can i change the icons for open and closed access points?
>>
>> Is it normal, that gpsdrive is really slow, if you have about 1600
>> waypoints in the txt?
> I never tested this, but the txt file isn't made to be used with so much 
> points. please use the database for this.
> 
> 
> 
>  
> _______________________________________________
> GPSdrive mailing list
> GPSdrive at lists.gpsdrivers.org
> http://lists.gpsdrivers.org/mailman/listinfo/gpsdrive
> 
> 

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From sascha-ml-gis-gpsdrive at silbe.org  Thu Jan 15 02:52:01 2009
From: sascha-ml-gis-gpsdrive at silbe.org (Sascha Silbe)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 11:52:01 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] WITH_MYDEBUG
In-Reply-To: <200901150642.49486.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
References: <20090115112507.a19f714a.hamish_b@yahoo.com>
	<62528c0e2d1d657c40ae3f7cbace443a.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<200901150642.49486.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <20090115115156.GC5670@twin.sascha.silbe.org>

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 06:42:49AM +0100, Guenther Meyer wrote:

> but does this really matter on todays computers?
"Todays computers" includes Smartphones, "Nettops" (desktop PC with 
low-power CPU like Intel Atom or ARM), "Netbooks" (mobile PC with 
low-power CPU) and other slow machines.
On mobile computers, CPU usage directly equates to power usage and such 
to battery life, often making a great difference. Even for desktops, 
resource usage can make a difference, both in the short run (UI latency) 
and in the long run (power bill).
So if there's an easy way to reduce CPU consumption, use it. If it'd 
affect security, maintainability, etc.pp., it's an entirely different 
matter, of course.

> maybe this only makes sense on devices with limited resources.
I haven't seen any device with unlimited resources except in information 
science theory textbooks.
Interestingly, current desktops don't seem any faster than the 1990s 
machines, at least from the user perspective. The boot up time of my 
late C64 still has to be beaten by a PC or even my mobile phone (!). 
Heck, even Wordstar on my PC/XT started up faster as Open Office on my 
Dual Core Athlon64 currently does.

OK, enough rant, now to the issue at hand: AFAICS, gpsdrive already uses 
a single, global variable and if () checks against it to enable/disable 
debugging. This should have minimal impact (on CPU usage) if the 
variable is set to 0. The only thing I could think of that would cause 
it to be (measurably) slower than with the code deactivated at 
compile-time is missed optimization opportunities. In that case, it 
might make sense to
a) test different compiler optimization options and
b) copy those unlikely(...) macros from Linux and try putting these 
around the debugging checks.

CU Sascha

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From kripton at kripserver.net  Thu Jan 15 03:46:20 2009
From: kripton at kripserver.net (Jannis Achstetter)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:46:20 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] How i can change the icon from kismet-waypoints?
In-Reply-To: <21475471.post@talk.nabble.com>
References: <21469471.post@talk.nabble.com>	<200901150653.02420.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
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Aerics schrieb:
> I use the version 2.10 pre7.
> 
> Hmm, you said gpsdrive don`t use mysql and now you say is must use a db for
> gpsdrive with kismet.

Recent (SVN) versions of gpsdrive use a sqlite-file for this. I get the
"open WLAN" and "closed WLAN" icons (white strokes on black background)
here when I go wardriving.

Jannis

> 
> 
> 
> Guenther Meyer wrote:
>> Am Donnerstag 15 Januar 2009 schrieb Aerics:
>>> Good evening.
>>>
>>> Today, after i have finished the installation with osm i go wardriving
>>> with
>>> kismet.
>>> I store the waypoints in the way.txt, because gpsdrive don`t detect my
>>> sql
>>> server.
>>>
>> which gpsdrive version are you using?
>> gpsdrive don't use mysql anymore.
>>
>>> But at the moment i see the SSID for every waypoint and a small cross. I
>>> only want to see a icon without
>>> any text.
>>> And how can i change the icons for open and closed access points?
>>>
>>> Is it normal, that gpsdrive is really slow, if you have about 1600
>>> waypoints in the txt?
>> I never tested this, but the txt file isn't made to be used with so much 
>> points. please use the database for this.

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From DeadlyAppearance at gmx.de  Thu Jan 15 03:59:59 2009
From: DeadlyAppearance at gmx.de (Aerics)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:59:59 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] [gpsdrive] How i can change the icon from
	kismet-waypoints?
In-Reply-To: <496F3017.1070105@kripserver.net>
References: <21469471.post@talk.nabble.com>
	<200901150653.02420.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<21475471.post@talk.nabble.com> <496F3017.1070105@kripserver.net>
Message-ID: <21477110.post@talk.nabble.com>


And how you have configurated gpsdrive?
How it use sqlite and how kismet can store the founded access points in that
db?


Jannis Achstetter-2 wrote:
> 
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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> 
> Aerics schrieb:
>> I use the version 2.10 pre7.
>> 
>> Hmm, you said gpsdrive don`t use mysql and now you say is must use a db
>> for
>> gpsdrive with kismet.
> 
> Recent (SVN) versions of gpsdrive use a sqlite-file for this. I get the
> "open WLAN" and "closed WLAN" icons (white strokes on black background)
> here when I go wardriving.
> 
> Jannis
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Guenther Meyer wrote:
>>> Am Donnerstag 15 Januar 2009 schrieb Aerics:
>>>> Good evening.
>>>>
>>>> Today, after i have finished the installation with osm i go wardriving
>>>> with
>>>> kismet.
>>>> I store the waypoints in the way.txt, because gpsdrive don`t detect my
>>>> sql
>>>> server.
>>>>
>>> which gpsdrive version are you using?
>>> gpsdrive don't use mysql anymore.
>>>
>>>> But at the moment i see the SSID for every waypoint and a small cross.
>>>> I
>>>> only want to see a icon without
>>>> any text.
>>>> And how can i change the icons for open and closed access points?
>>>>
>>>> Is it normal, that gpsdrive is really slow, if you have about 1600
>>>> waypoints in the txt?
>>> I never tested this, but the txt file isn't made to be used with so much 
>>> points. please use the database for this.
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From kripton at kripserver.net  Thu Jan 15 04:09:32 2009
From: kripton at kripserver.net (Jannis Achstetter)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:09:32 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] [gpsdrive] How i can change the icon
	from	kismet-waypoints?
In-Reply-To: <21477110.post@talk.nabble.com>
References: <21469471.post@talk.nabble.com>	<200901150653.02420.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>	<21475471.post@talk.nabble.com>
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Aerics schrieb:
> And how you have configurated gpsdrive?
> How it use sqlite and how kismet can store the founded access points in that
> db?

gpsdrive is in "default" configuration and stores its waypoint in
"~/.gpsdrive//waypoints.db". Kismet doesn't store them at all. Just make
sure kismet is running before you start gpsdrive and gpsdrive will
connect to kismet and store the networks automatically when there is a
new one.

> 
> 
> Jannis Achstetter-2 wrote:
> Aerics schrieb:
>>>> I use the version 2.10 pre7.
>>>>
>>>> Hmm, you said gpsdrive don`t use mysql and now you say is must use a db
>>>> for
>>>> gpsdrive with kismet.
> Recent (SVN) versions of gpsdrive use a sqlite-file for this. I get the
> "open WLAN" and "closed WLAN" icons (white strokes on black background)
> here when I go wardriving.
> 
> Jannis
> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Guenther Meyer wrote:
>>>>> Am Donnerstag 15 Januar 2009 schrieb Aerics:
>>>>>> Good evening.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today, after i have finished the installation with osm i go wardriving
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> kismet.
>>>>>> I store the waypoints in the way.txt, because gpsdrive don`t detect my
>>>>>> sql
>>>>>> server.
>>>>>>
>>>>> which gpsdrive version are you using?
>>>>> gpsdrive don't use mysql anymore.
>>>>>
>>>>>> But at the moment i see the SSID for every waypoint and a small cross.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> only want to see a icon without
>>>>>> any text.
>>>>>> And how can i change the icons for open and closed access points?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it normal, that gpsdrive is really slow, if you have about 1600
>>>>>> waypoints in the txt?
>>>>> I never tested this, but the txt file isn't made to be used with so much 
>>>>> points. please use the database for this.
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From hamish_b at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 15 11:36:54 2009
From: hamish_b at yahoo.com (Hamish)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:36:54 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] WITH_MYDEBUG
In-Reply-To: <200901150642.49486.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <780818.25331.qm@web110011.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

schrieb info at 4x4falcon.com:
> I am not uploading them at the moment as there appears to be consensus
> for a new release.

go! go! go!


> The MYDEBUG removes all the:
>   if (mydebug > ...
> code.
>
> This helps make the program more responsive (particularly to
> touchscreen/mouse clicks) and reduces the binary file by 30k (with
> MYDEBUG off).

I am not so sure that this will actually make any noticeable difference
to anything beyond initial load time (time to read the binary from the
disk). Do you notice it to be more responsive or "in theory"?
Once it is read from disk it will be held in memory where the extra seek
time from a bigger binary is near 0.

as long as mydebug is set at 0 or lower,
  if( (int)mydebug > const int ) or if(mydebug)
always tests as false, and so the added overhead is simply the if()
statement comparison of two ints. and that takes hardly any cpu
instructions to complete. maybe that would matter in the middle of
nested for loops, but gpsdrive doesn't really use those.


?
Hamish



      


From hamish_b at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 15 11:44:31 2009
From: hamish_b at yahoo.com (Hamish)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:44:31 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] [gpsdrive] How i can change the icon from
	kismet-waypoints?
In-Reply-To: <200901150653.02420.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <949709.58509.qm@web110005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

schrieb Aerics:
> > Is it normal, that gpsdrive is really slow, if you have about 1600
> > waypoints in the txt?

I've had about that many and don't recall noticing it being very slow.
shrug.

Guenther wrote:
> I never tested this, but the txt file isn't made to be used with so much 
> points. please use the database for this.

Note in gpsdrive.h there is "MAXSHOWNWP" which sets the maximum number of
waypoints on screen to render. About 2 months ago in SVN (r2140,r2145)
I increased this number from 100 to 5000.

maybe the "slowness" is waypoints 101+ taking an infinite amount of time
to draw??


Hamish



      


From hamish_b at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 15 13:47:39 2009
From: hamish_b at yahoo.com (Hamish)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:47:39 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] [gpsdrive] How i can change the icon from
	kismet-waypoints?
In-Reply-To: <21469471.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <945208.76323.qm@web110002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Aerics wrote:
> I only want to see a icon without any text.

make the label in way.txt just a single underscore (_).
(newer SVN builds)


> And how can i change the icons for open and closed access
> points?

change the waypoint-type in the way.txt file. see the man page.


Hamish



      


From hamish_b at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 15 14:46:42 2009
From: hamish_b at yahoo.com (Hamish)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:46:42 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] add POI to a route
In-Reply-To: <200901150656.43147.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <823028.47194.qm@web110010.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

schrieb Hamish:
> > I seem to have gotten a bit confused.
> > How do you add POI to a new route?
> >
> > Following the man page (which I'm pretty sure I tested a couple months
> > ago when I rewrote it), [Find]->[Find], [+ Edit route], then select
> > some POI, and [Select Target]; select some POI, and [Select Target];
> > etc.

Guenther wrote:
> when you click on 'edit route', all entries, that are clicked in the
> list are directly added to the route. you don't have to press
> 'select target' or something.

ok, I think I see the problem now:
(+ man page updated)


steps:
- Start GpsDrive
- [Find]
- max distance 0.25 km from current position [Find]
   (6 POI found & listed in "Results" list)
- click on diff't wpts in Results list, cross-hair target and connecting
   line jumps to selected POI as I click on the entry in the list
- I can't select multiple POI from the Results list with shift-click or
    ctrl-click.
- With a POI selected in the Results list click [Edit Route]
    New window opens for Edit Route
- "Route List" is empty

ok, progress:

-> at this point (re)clicking on the currently selected POI in the
    Results list does nothing! I need to select another POI from the
    Results list and then back to the first one selected before the Edit
    Route window was opened and continue from there. :(



also, it would be nice if the Route List window gave you bearing* between
each route-point in the Route List. Currently you get "#, blank, Name,
Distance, and Trip (cumulative distance). (e.g. my handheld garmin gives
you that angle in its current route list of waypoints.

gpsmisc.c currently calculates that angle in calc_wpdist() but doesn't
give access to it. I'll submit a little wrapper fn in SVN later today
so we can have access to that.



terminology I use (today):
 bearing: angle from you to the cross-hairs/next target(wpt)
    (compass angle of shortest line between A and B)

 heading: direction you are currently facing

 course-over-ground (COG): direction you are currently facing
    "COG" is used in sailboat racing calculations, where I know it from


I started a "Terminology" wiki page to try an centralize these discussions as they seem to get lost in the mailing list archives and repeated.

https://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/gpsdrive/index.php?title=Terminology

edit away!



thanks,
Hamish


      


From hamish_b at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 15 14:49:31 2009
From: hamish_b at yahoo.com (Hamish)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:49:31 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Error in compile ...'DASH_XTE' undeclared
In-Reply-To: <200901150800.18808.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
Message-ID: <567281.66957.qm@web110013.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Joerg:
> This seems to be newly introduced ...
> 
> /home/tweety/gpsdrive-svn/src/main_gui.c:1097: error:
> 'DASH_XTE' undeclared (first use in this function)

did you svn update main_gui.h and run "make clean"?

anyway, I have now better conditionalized that away so should be solved.


Hamish



      


From hamish_b at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 15 15:36:48 2009
From: hamish_b at yahoo.com (Hamish)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:36:48 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] WITH_MYDEBUG
In-Reply-To: <20090115115156.GC5670@twin.sascha.silbe.org>
Message-ID: <714931.28882.qm@web110015.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Sascha Silbe wrote:
> Heck, even Wordstar on my PC/XT started up faster as Open Office
> on my Dual Core Athlon64 currently does.

to compare apples with apples, try:
# apt-get install joe
$ joe

it loads rather fast and reminds you of ^K^Q reflexes you probably
thought that you'd forgotten.

:)


> OK, enough rant, now to the issue at hand: AFAICS, gpsdrive
> already uses a single, global variable and if () checks
> against it to enable/disable debugging. This should have
> minimal impact (on CPU usage) if the variable is set to 0.

minimal impact meaning a few micro-seconds difference..
(unless some other subtle interaction is going on)


Hamish



      


From chris123 at magma.ca  Thu Jan 15 20:09:03 2009
From: chris123 at magma.ca (Chris h)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 05:09:03 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] making use of AIS data
In-Reply-To: <336189.40783.qm@web110009.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <336189.40783.qm@web110009.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901160008.59871.chris123@magma.ca>

On Wednesday 14 January 2009 19:04:51 Hamish wrote:

> the very tricky bit is choosing which layers to include. the S-52
> gives recommendations of which features to display based on map
> scale class, I'd say reuse those. But you would have to enter
> that data by hand. If someone provides a list of layernames
> per scale band, I might do the rest.

If you could provide me with a quick and dirty briefing or tutorial, I would 
be interested in tacking this as it would be a good learning lesson. 

-- 
/ch

From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Thu Jan 15 22:07:35 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:07:35 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] add POI to a route
In-Reply-To: <823028.47194.qm@web110010.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <823028.47194.qm@web110010.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901160807.34750.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Freitag 16 Januar 2009 schrieb Hamish:
> schrieb Hamish:
> > > I seem to have gotten a bit confused.
> > > How do you add POI to a new route?
> > >
> > > Following the man page (which I'm pretty sure I tested a couple months
> > > ago when I rewrote it), [Find]->[Find], [+ Edit route], then select
> > > some POI, and [Select Target]; select some POI, and [Select Target];
> > > etc.
>
> Guenther wrote:
> > when you click on 'edit route', all entries, that are clicked in the
> > list are directly added to the route. you don't have to press
> > 'select target' or something.
>
> ok, I think I see the problem now:
> (+ man page updated)
>
>

> - I can't select multiple POI from the Results list with shift-click or
>     ctrl-click.
this won't make any sense, because you can only have one active target.
and for route creation the order of the points is important, which gpsdrive 
can't determine...

> ok, progress:
>
> -> at this point (re)clicking on the currently selected POI in the
>     Results list does nothing! I need to select another POI from the
>     Results list and then back to the first one selected before the Edit
>     Route window was opened and continue from there. :(
>
right. the points are chosen when the selection changes.
the logic is, to first start a new route, and then to add points, so this 
should not be too much of a problem.

> also, it would be nice if the Route List window gave you bearing* between
> each route-point in the Route List. Currently you get "#, blank, Name,
> Distance, and Trip (cumulative distance). (e.g. my handheld garmin gives
> you that angle in its current route list of waypoints.
>
you mean the bearing from one route point to the next?
should be no problem.

> terminology I use (today):
>  bearing: angle from you to the cross-hairs/next target(wpt)
>     (compass angle of shortest line between A and B)
>
ok.

>  heading: direction you are currently facing
>
which for me (and gpsdrive) is the same as the moving direction.
maybe we should rename all the stuff called 'heading' to 'course'.

>  course-over-ground (COG): direction you are currently facing
>     "COG" is used in sailboat racing calculations, where I know it from
>
facing? you mean moving, I guess...


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From pm at debian.org  Fri Jan 16 03:07:42 2009
From: pm at debian.org (Paul Martin)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:07:42 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] GPS Drive or GPS Sail?
Message-ID: <20090116120732.GA21254@nowster.org.uk>

I've noticed that some of the more recent SVN changes have been to
terminology, to change them from ground-based terms to water-based.

Whilst this is a good thing, we need to be mindful that the principal users
will be using cars not boats, and that perhaps the more nautical terms
should only be turned on if you're set to "Travel Mode" = "Boat" or
"Aeroplane", sorry, "Airplane" [perhaps an en_GB locale needs writing :-)].

-- 
Paul Martin <pm at debian.org>

From mail at cynapses.org  Fri Jan 16 04:11:48 2009
From: mail at cynapses.org (Andreas Schneider)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:11:48 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] commit mail
Message-ID: <200901161411.43740.mail@cynapses.org>

Hi,

I always get 2 emails for every commit, could someone please check what's 
wrong?

Thanks,


	-- andreas

-- 
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From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Fri Jan 16 04:26:54 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:26:54 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] GPS Drive or GPS Sail?
In-Reply-To: <20090116120732.GA21254@nowster.org.uk>
References: <20090116120732.GA21254@nowster.org.uk>
Message-ID: <200901161426.52039.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Freitag 16 Januar 2009 schrieb Paul Martin:
> I've noticed that some of the more recent SVN changes have been to
> terminology, to change them from ground-based terms to water-based.
>
not really. we just try to use the right terms.
for example there is a difference between heading and course, but as it is not 
relevant for cars or bikes it had not been recognized as error so far...

> Whilst this is a good thing, we need to be mindful that the principal users
> will be using cars not boats, and that perhaps the more nautical terms
> should only be turned on if you're set to "Travel Mode" = "Boat" or
> "Aeroplane", sorry, "Airplane" [perhaps an en_GB locale needs writing :-)].
if there are special terms, ok.
I would use this setting (besides routing preferences) rather for choosing, 
which options and displays the user can see. like hiding options that are 
only useful on a ship when travelmode "car" is set.



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From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Fri Jan 16 04:29:44 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:29:44 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] commit mail
In-Reply-To: <200901161411.43740.mail@cynapses.org>
References: <200901161411.43740.mail@cynapses.org>
Message-ID: <200901161429.43860.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Freitag 16 Januar 2009 schrieb Andreas Schneider:
> Hi,
>
> I always get 2 emails for every commit, could someone please check what's
> wrong?
>
which adress would you like to be removed?
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From mail at cynapses.org  Fri Jan 16 04:33:56 2009
From: mail at cynapses.org (Andreas Schneider)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:33:56 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] commit mail
In-Reply-To: <200901161429.43860.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
References: <200901161411.43740.mail@cynapses.org>
	<200901161429.43860.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <200901161433.53021.mail@cynapses.org>

On Friday 16 January 2009 14:29:43 Guenther Meyer wrote:
> Am Freitag 16 Januar 2009 schrieb Andreas Schneider:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I always get 2 emails for every commit, could someone please check what's
> > wrong?
>
> which adress would you like to be removed?

There should only go a mail to *this* address in the mailing list. Are there 
others which point to this address or is it twice in the list?


	-- andreas

-- 
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From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Fri Jan 16 04:46:22 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:46:22 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] commit mail
In-Reply-To: <200901161433.53021.mail@cynapses.org>
References: <200901161411.43740.mail@cynapses.org>
	<200901161429.43860.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
	<200901161433.53021.mail@cynapses.org>
Message-ID: <200901161446.21787.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Freitag 16 Januar 2009 schrieb Andreas Schneider:
> On Friday 16 January 2009 14:29:43 Guenther Meyer wrote:
> > Am Freitag 16 Januar 2009 schrieb Andreas Schneider:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I always get 2 emails for every commit, could someone please check
> > > what's wrong?
> >
> > which adress would you like to be removed?
>
> There should only go a mail to *this* address in the mailing list. Are
> there others which point to this address or is it twice in the list?
>
your sf adress was not excluded. should be fixed now.

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From elmonogrande at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 08:47:44 2009
From: elmonogrande at gmail.com (Alex Cruz)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:47:44 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Compile Error
Message-ID: <200901161148.12429.elmonogrande@gmail.com>

While trying to compile the latest SVN on my Kubuntu 8.04.1 install, I'm 
getting the following error:

Building C object src/CMakeFiles/gpsdrive.dir/speech.o
/home/alex/gpsdrive/gpsdrive-svn/src/speech.c: In 
function ?speech_set_module?:
/home/alex/gpsdrive/gpsdrive-svn/src/speech.c:218: error: ?SPDVoice? 
undeclared (first use in this function)
/home/alex/gpsdrive/gpsdrive-svn/src/speech.c:218: error: (Each undeclared 
identifier is reported only once
/home/alex/gpsdrive/gpsdrive-svn/src/speech.c:218: error: for each function it 
appears in.)
/home/alex/gpsdrive/gpsdrive-svn/src/speech.c:218: error: ?t_buf? undeclared 
(first use in this function)
/home/alex/gpsdrive/gpsdrive-svn/src/speech.c: In function ?speech_init?:
/home/alex/gpsdrive/gpsdrive-svn/src/speech.c:290: warning: assignment makes 
pointer from integer without a cast
make[2]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/gpsdrive.dir/speech.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/gpsdrive.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2

Speechd version is 0.6.6-0ubuntu8. Thoughts on how to fix this?

-alex

P.S. Delete my other post. I sent it with the wrong email account :-)

From info at 4x4falcon.com  Fri Jan 16 14:02:01 2009
From: info at 4x4falcon.com (info at 4x4falcon.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:02:01 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Compile Error
In-Reply-To: <200901161148.12429.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
References: <200901161148.12429.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <334553d81bcf3bc8671f0214d8562dc0.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>

Upgrade the speechd from the website as the problem lies in the header
file for speechd.

Cheers
Ross


> While trying to compile the latest SVN on my Kubuntu 8.04.1 install, I'm
> getting the following error:
>
> Building C object src/CMakeFiles/gpsdrive.dir/speech.o
> /home/alex/gpsdrive/gpsdrive-svn/src/speech.c: In
> function ???speech_set_module???:
> /home/alex/gpsdrive/gpsdrive-svn/src/speech.c:218: error: ???SPDVoice???
> undeclared (first use in this function)
> /home/alex/gpsdrive/gpsdrive-svn/src/speech.c:218: error: (Each undeclared
> identifier is reported only once
> /home/alex/gpsdrive/gpsdrive-svn/src/speech.c:218: error: for each
> function it
> appears in.)
> /home/alex/gpsdrive/gpsdrive-svn/src/speech.c:218: error: ???t_buf???
> undeclared
> (first use in this function)
> /home/alex/gpsdrive/gpsdrive-svn/src/speech.c: In function
> ???speech_init???:
> /home/alex/gpsdrive/gpsdrive-svn/src/speech.c:290: warning: assignment
> makes
> pointer from integer without a cast
> make[2]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/gpsdrive.dir/speech.o] Error 1
> make[1]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/gpsdrive.dir/all] Error 2
> make: *** [all] Error 2
>
> Speechd version is 0.6.6-0ubuntu8. Thoughts on how to fix this?
>
> -alex
>
> P.S. Delete my other post. I sent it with the wrong email account :-)
> _______________________________________________
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> GPSdrive at lists.gpsdrivers.org
> http://lists.gpsdrivers.org/mailman/listinfo/gpsdrive
>



From elmonogrande at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 15:06:13 2009
From: elmonogrande at gmail.com (Alex Cruz)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 00:06:13 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Compile Error
In-Reply-To: <334553d81bcf3bc8671f0214d8562dc0.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
References: <200901161148.12429.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
	<334553d81bcf3bc8671f0214d8562dc0.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
Message-ID: <200901161806.44601.elmonogrande@gmail.com>

Do I need speechd or can I compile without it?

-alex

On Friday 16 January 2009, info at 4x4falcon.com wrote:
> Upgrade the speechd from the website as the problem lies in the header
> file for speechd.
>
> Cheers
> Ross

From info at 4x4falcon.com  Fri Jan 16 15:52:19 2009
From: info at 4x4falcon.com (info at 4x4falcon.com)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 00:52:19 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Compile Error
In-Reply-To: <200901161806.44601.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
References: <200901161148.12429.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
	<334553d81bcf3bc8671f0214d8562dc0.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<200901161806.44601.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f8958c52e4be5cc437bf74e50b387fb9.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>

You can compile without it.

cmake -DWITH_SPEECH=OFF ..

Cheers
Ross

> Do I need speechd or can I compile without it?
>
> -alex
>
> On Friday 16 January 2009, info at 4x4falcon.com wrote:
>> Upgrade the speechd from the website as the problem lies in the header
>> file for speechd.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Ross
> _______________________________________________
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> GPSdrive at lists.gpsdrivers.org
> http://lists.gpsdrivers.org/mailman/listinfo/gpsdrive
>



From hamish_b at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 16 16:48:32 2009
From: hamish_b at yahoo.com (Hamish)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 01:48:32 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Compile Error
In-Reply-To: <200901161806.44601.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <831039.51796.qm@web110001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Alex wrote:
> Do I need speechd or can I compile without it?

you can compile without it.
besides the -D flag pointed out before, there is an ON/OFF switch in DefineOptions.cmake to change. After changing that remove build/CMakeCache.txt
so it can take effect.

note that you need a minimum of speechd 0.6.7 to compile it. Ubuntu 8.04
(according to your post) ships with 0.6.6. Unfortunately AFAICT the speechd
header does not include a version number, so we have to rely on the .deb
package rules to confirm that. Probably Ubuntu 8.10 will have 0.6.7.


Hamish



      


From hamish_b at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 16 18:00:11 2009
From: hamish_b at yahoo.com (Hamish)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 03:00:11 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] add POI to a route
In-Reply-To: <200901160807.34750.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <126202.68712.qm@web110016.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hamish:
>>>> How do you add POI to a new route?
....
> > at this point (re)clicking on the currently selected POI in the
> > Results list does nothing! I need to select another POI from the
> > Results list and then back to the first one selected before the
> > Edit Route window was opened and continue from there. :(

Guenther:
> right. the points are chosen when the selection changes.
> the logic is, to first start a new route, and then to add
> points, so this should not be too much of a problem.

- Find some POIs to select from
- browse through them; naturally highlight the one you wish to start on.
- Open the [Edit Route] window
- Try and add that 1st POI to the route list. click click click click.
  You can't- re-clicking/double-clicking on the POI should add it to the
  list, not just when there is a change of POI.


> > also, it would be nice if the Route List window gave you bearing*
> > between each route-point in the Route List. Currently you get
> > "#, blank, Name, Distance, and Trip (cumulative distance). (e.g. my
> > handheld garmin gives you that angle in its current route list of
> > waypoints.
>
> you mean the bearing from one route point to the next?

yes

> should be no problem.

to get the angle see new forward_azimuth and back_azimuth variables from
inv_geosedic() in gpsmisc.c. (radians +CW from North)


> >  course-over-ground (COG): direction you are currently facing
>
> facing? you mean moving, I guess...

oops, another cut&paste related tragedy. fixed in the wiki too.



Hamish



      


From hamish_b at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 16 18:32:25 2009
From: hamish_b at yahoo.com (Hamish)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 03:32:25 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] making use of AIS data
In-Reply-To: <200901160008.59871.chris123@magma.ca>
Message-ID: <301270.12955.qm@web110014.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hamish wrote:
> > the very tricky bit is choosing which layers to include. the S-52
> > gives recommendations of which features to display based on map
> > scale class, I'd say reuse those. But you would have to enter
> > that data by hand. If someone provides a list of layernames
> > per scale band, I might do the rest.
> 
> If you could provide me with a quick and dirty briefing or tutorial,
> I would  be interested in tacking this as it would be a good
> learning lesson. 


see SCAMAX and SCAMIN entries in the libS52 CVS file doc/att.txt,

for each token these control which map scales (e.g. 1:25,000-1:100,000)
the feature should be rendered.

and read through the remarks in S52CS.c in the libS52 source
// S52CS.c : Conditional Symbologie procedure 3.2 (CS)

(ignore the code, just look at the comments...)

and the IHO PDF spec docs,
http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/S-57_data#GRASS_S-52_interface_for_rendering_S-57_data


and you may see why I defer :). It's all there & coded, but a bit daunting
to me.

My idea is a little wrapper C program around S52CS.c to export tokens
based on a list of scales would help us make a table which we could use
in developing the list of layers for the WMS request.


Hamish



      


From chris123 at magma.ca  Fri Jan 16 19:09:55 2009
From: chris123 at magma.ca (Chris h)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 04:09:55 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] making use of AIS data
In-Reply-To: <301270.12955.qm@web110014.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <301270.12955.qm@web110014.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901162307.35913.chris123@magma.ca>

On Friday 16 January 2009 22:29:53 Hamish wrote:
<snipped for brevity>

> and the IHO PDF spec docs,
> http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/S-57_data#GRASS_S-52_interface_for_rendering_S-
>57_data

Read through this and now I understand why you get bounced off lists if ya 
cuss in public..:) 
>
> and you may see why I defer :). It's all there & coded, but a bit daunting
> to me.

That seems to be an understatement Hamish. 

> My idea is a little wrapper C program around S52CS.c to export tokens
> based on a list of scales would help us make a table which we could use
> in developing the list of layers for the WMS request.

All humour aside, I have sunday free so will give this material a read at 
least. Not sure at this time if I can be of help or not but will give its a 
good once over, Its actually interesting stuff. Both a qgis plugin and 
inclusion in gpsdrive would be very interesting and worthwhile 

Best regards and thanks. 

-- 
/ch

From elmonogrande at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 20:00:33 2009
From: elmonogrande at gmail.com (Alex Cruz)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 05:00:33 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Compile Error
In-Reply-To: <831039.51796.qm@web110001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <831039.51796.qm@web110001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901162259.05562.elmonogrande@gmail.com>

On Friday 16 January 2009, Hamish wrote:
> you can compile without it.
> besides the -D flag pointed out before, there is an ON/OFF switch in
> DefineOptions.cmake to change. After changing that remove
> build/CMakeCache.txt so it can take effect.
>
> note that you need a minimum of speechd 0.6.7 to compile it. Ubuntu 8.04
> (according to your post) ships with 0.6.6. Unfortunately AFAICT the speechd
> header does not include a version number, so we have to rely on the .deb
> package rules to confirm that. Probably Ubuntu 8.10 will have 0.6.7.


I found the source for 0.6.7 and compiled from there with no errors. Now, the 
only issue I have is with mapnik. While I was able to render the test image 
with the generate_image.py script, I only get a white background when 
switching to mapnik mode in gpsdrive. I'm not sure if it's the data from the 
extract from of my state or what. Thoughts?

-alex

From info at 4x4falcon.com  Sat Jan 17 03:16:07 2009
From: info at 4x4falcon.com (info at 4x4falcon.com)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 12:16:07 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Compile Error
In-Reply-To: <200901162259.05562.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
References: <831039.51796.qm@web110001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<200901162259.05562.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4684c1291074d9e2abaf6d9124c4d714.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>

Fix on the installing wiki page under troubleshooting.

Just did this on a machine myself.

Cheers
Ross

> On Friday 16 January 2009, Hamish wrote:
>> you can compile without it.
>> besides the -D flag pointed out before, there is an ON/OFF switch in
>> DefineOptions.cmake to change. After changing that remove
>> build/CMakeCache.txt so it can take effect.
>>
>> note that you need a minimum of speechd 0.6.7 to compile it. Ubuntu 8.04
>> (according to your post) ships with 0.6.6. Unfortunately AFAICT the
>> speechd
>> header does not include a version number, so we have to rely on the .deb
>> package rules to confirm that. Probably Ubuntu 8.10 will have 0.6.7.
>
>
> I found the source for 0.6.7 and compiled from there with no errors. Now,
> the
> only issue I have is with mapnik. While I was able to render the test
> image
> with the generate_image.py script, I only get a white background when
> switching to mapnik mode in gpsdrive. I'm not sure if it's the data from
> the
> extract from of my state or what. Thoughts?
>
> -alex
> _______________________________________________
> GPSdrive mailing list
> GPSdrive at lists.gpsdrivers.org
> http://lists.gpsdrivers.org/mailman/listinfo/gpsdrive
>



From gpsdrive at ostertag.name  Sat Jan 17 06:16:21 2009
From: gpsdrive at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany))
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:16:21 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] new Release :-)
In-Reply-To: <780818.25331.qm@web110011.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <780818.25331.qm@web110011.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901171616.14101.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>

On Donnerstag 15 Januar 2009, Hamish wrote:
> schrieb info at 4x4falcon.com:
> > I am not uploading them at the moment as there appears to be consensus
> > for a new release.
>
> go! go! go!

Yes!!!

We do plan a new Release pretty soon. I still see some Bug correction going 
on. But after this has settled I will give out one more pre7 Version. And if 
nothing dramatically will be in the pre7 we will go for a 2.10 :-) Finally 
after .... I don't want to think about it ;-)


-
Joerg

From gpsdrive at ostertag.name  Sat Jan 17 06:26:08 2009
From: gpsdrive at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany))
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:26:08 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Error in compile ...'DASH_XTE' undeclared
In-Reply-To: <567281.66957.qm@web110013.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <567281.66957.qm@web110013.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901171626.05790.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>

On Freitag 16 Januar 2009, Hamish wrote:
> Joerg:
> > This seems to be newly introduced ...
> >
> > /home/tweety/gpsdrive-svn/src/main_gui.c:1097: error:
> > 'DASH_XTE' undeclared (first use in this function)
>
> did you svn update main_gui.h and run "make clean"?

I did, but I had an interims Version which might have had problems.

> anyway, I have now better conditionalized that away so should be solved.

Yes it is :-)

Thanks

-- 

J?rg (Germany, Tettnang)

http://www.ostertag.name/

From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Sat Jan 17 06:59:28 2009
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:59:28 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] new Release :-)
In-Reply-To: <200901171616.14101.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
References: <780818.25331.qm@web110011.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<200901171616.14101.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
Message-ID: <20090117155925.GA15207@charlescurley.com>

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 04:16:13PM +0100, Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany) wrote:
> On Donnerstag 15 Januar 2009, Hamish wrote:

> We do plan a new Release pretty soon. I still see some Bug correction going 
> on. But after this has settled I will give out one more pre7 Version. And if 
> nothing dramatically will be in the pre7 we will go for a 2.10 :-) Finally 
> after .... I don't want to think about it ;-)

One thing that would help in a new release is step by step
instructions for a new installation. Installing gpsdrive has gotten
rather complicated since the last release, and that was bad enough.

I'd offer to do it myself, but I no longer know the software anwhere
near well enough to do it.

-- 

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From gpsdrive at ostertag.name  Sat Jan 17 07:55:58 2009
From: gpsdrive at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany))
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:55:58 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] new Release :-)
In-Reply-To: <20090117155925.GA15207@charlescurley.com>
References: <780818.25331.qm@web110011.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<200901171616.14101.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
	<20090117155925.GA15207@charlescurley.com>
Message-ID: <200901171755.52043.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>

On Samstag 17 Januar 2009, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 04:16:13PM +0100, Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive 
Tettnang/Germany) wrote:
> > On Donnerstag 15 Januar 2009, Hamish wrote:
> >
> > We do plan a new Release pretty soon. I still see some Bug correction
> > going on. But after this has settled I will give out one more pre7
> > Version. And if nothing dramatically will be in the pre7 we will go for a
> > 2.10 :-) Finally after .... I don't want to think about it ;-)
>
> One thing that would help in a new release is step by step
> instructions for a new installation. Installing gpsdrive has gotten
> rather complicated since the last release, and that was bad enough.
>
> I'd offer to do it myself, but I no longer know the software anwhere
> near well enough to do it.

What about if you'd start writing the description and ask here if you have 
open issues?


-- 

J?rg (Germany, Tettnang)

http://www.ostertag.name/

From info at 4x4falcon.com  Sat Jan 17 13:55:22 2009
From: info at 4x4falcon.com (info at 4x4falcon.com)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 22:55:22 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] new Release :-)
In-Reply-To: <200901171755.52043.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
References: <780818.25331.qm@web110011.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<200901171616.14101.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
	<20090117155925.GA15207@charlescurley.com>
	<200901171755.52043.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
Message-ID: <f43f8e6da48d71bba8c7706ce659aeb0.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>

> On Samstag 17 Januar 2009, Charles Curley wrote:
>> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 04:16:13PM +0100, Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive
> Tettnang/Germany) wrote:
>> > On Donnerstag 15 Januar 2009, Hamish wrote:
>> >
>> > We do plan a new Release pretty soon. I still see some Bug correction
>> > going on. But after this has settled I will give out one more pre7
>> > Version. And if nothing dramatically will be in the pre7 we will go
>> for a
>> > 2.10 :-) Finally after .... I don't want to think about it ;-)
>>
>> One thing that would help in a new release is step by step
>> instructions for a new installation. Installing gpsdrive has gotten
>> rather complicated since the last release, and that was bad enough.
>>
>> I'd offer to do it myself, but I no longer know the software anwhere
>> near well enough to do it.
>
> What about if you'd start writing the description and ask here if you have
> open issues?
>
>
> --
>
> J?rg (Germany, Tettnang)
>
> http://www.ostertag.name/
> _______________________________________________
> GPSdrive mailing list
> GPSdrive at lists.gpsdrivers.org
> http://lists.gpsdrivers.org/mailman/listinfo/gpsdrive
>

Already here.

https://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/gpsdrive/index.php?title=8.04_manual

Cheers
Ross



From elmonogrande at gmail.com  Mon Jan 19 04:35:05 2009
From: elmonogrande at gmail.com (Alex Cruz)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:35:05 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Compile Error
In-Reply-To: <4684c1291074d9e2abaf6d9124c4d714.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
References: <831039.51796.qm@web110001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<200901162259.05562.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
	<4684c1291074d9e2abaf6d9124c4d714.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
Message-ID: <200901190736.00478.elmonogrande@gmail.com>

On Saturday 17 January 2009, info at 4x4falcon.com wrote:
> Fix on the installing wiki page under troubleshooting.
>
> Just did this on a machine myself.

 Unfortunately, I had already performed all of those steps and still no 
rendering. The weird thing is that the background was completely white as 
opposed to that pastel blue that I've seen happen that the troubleshooting 
describes.

 So, I decided to try gpsdrive under Kubuntu 8.10 and poof! the maps are 
rendering as expected with mapnik. I've tried this now several times and the 
results are the same. Both of these were clean installs. So I'm going to try 
compiling under Ubuntu 8.04 instead of Kubuntu and see if I get the same 
results.

 Now on to a few questions. When I compile from svn and start up gpsdrive, I 
get those annoying "###WARNING: Failed to load image 
file '/usr/local/share/icons/map-icons/rendering/blah.png' errors due to that 
directory not existing. How can I fix this? Also, is there a way for the 
SSID's to show up in the map rendering nest to the icons? I'm pretty sure 
that they used to show up with my previous installation under Gentoo. 
Thoughts?

Thanks.

-alex

From gpsdrive at ostertag.name  Mon Jan 19 10:00:56 2009
From: gpsdrive at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany))
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:00:56 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Compile Error
In-Reply-To: <200901190736.00478.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
References: <831039.51796.qm@web110001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<4684c1291074d9e2abaf6d9124c4d714.squirrel@mail.4x4falcon.com>
	<200901190736.00478.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901192000.51730.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>

On Montag 19 Januar 2009, Alex Cruz wrote:
> On Saturday 17 January 2009, info at 4x4falcon.com wrote:
> > Fix on the installing wiki page under troubleshooting.
> >
> > Just did this on a machine myself.
>
>  Unfortunately, I had already performed all of those steps and still no
> rendering. The weird thing is that the background was completely white as
> opposed to that pastel blue that I've seen happen that the troubleshooting
> describes.
>
>  So, I decided to try gpsdrive under Kubuntu 8.10 and poof! the maps are
> rendering as expected with mapnik. I've tried this now several times and
> the results are the same. Both of these were clean installs. So I'm going
> to try compiling under Ubuntu 8.04 instead of Kubuntu and see if I get the
> same results.
>
>  Now on to a few questions. When I compile from svn and start up gpsdrive,
> I get those annoying "###WARNING: Failed to load image
> file '/usr/local/share/icons/map-icons/rendering/blah.png' errors due to
> that directory not existing. How can I fix this? Also, is there a way for
> the SSID's to show up in the map rendering nest to the icons? I'm pretty
> sure that they used to show up with my previous installation under Gentoo.
> Thoughts?

Yuu need to install the map-icons from the osm-svn. For a  long time I only 
tried it with the debian packages ....
The icons can be found at:
	svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/share/map-icons


-- 

J?rg (Germany, Tettnang)

http://www.ostertag.name/

From elmonogrande at gmail.com  Mon Jan 19 13:15:46 2009
From: elmonogrande at gmail.com (Alex Cruz)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:15:46 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Compile Error
In-Reply-To: <200901192000.51730.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
References: <831039.51796.qm@web110001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<200901190736.00478.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
	<200901192000.51730.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
Message-ID: <200901191616.54093.elmonogrande@gmail.com>

On Monday 19 January 2009, Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany) wrote:
> Yuu need to install the map-icons from the osm-svn. For a  long time I only
> tried it with the debian packages ....
> The icons can be found at:
> 	svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/share/map-icons

Thanks, Joerg. Any idea on whether or not the SSID names can be displayed 
along with the icons?

As a follow-up to my previous findings, I installed Ubuntu 8.04 and ran 
through the manual compile on the wiki. When I fired up gpsdrive, mapnik 
displayed as expected. So I decided to install the Kubuntu-desktop package 
and test it under there. Gpsdrive fired up and used mapnik as expected. So 
personally, I have no idea what the issue was unless it was something 
specific to the Kubuntu distribution since I was able to recreate it several 
times. The only extra steps required for the manual compile was installing 
libdotconf-dev in order to be able to compile and install 
speech-dispatcher-0.6.7 since the current svn requires it. Ross, can you 
update the wiki when you get a chance?

Thanks.

-alex

From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Mon Jan 19 22:12:09 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 07:12:09 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Compile Error
In-Reply-To: <200901191616.54093.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
References: <831039.51796.qm@web110001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<200901192000.51730.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
	<200901191616.54093.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901200812.08627.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Montag 19 Januar 2009 schrieb Alex Cruz:
> On Monday 19 January 2009, Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany) wrote:
> > Yuu need to install the map-icons from the osm-svn. For a  long time I
> > only tried it with the debian packages ....
> > The icons can be found at:
> > 	svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/share/map-icons
>
> Thanks, Joerg. Any idea on whether or not the SSID names can be displayed
> along with the icons?
>
usually the ssid is shown as label of the wlan poi, if available.

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From elmonogrande at gmail.com  Tue Jan 20 03:18:14 2009
From: elmonogrande at gmail.com (Alex Cruz)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:18:14 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Compile Error
In-Reply-To: <200901200812.08627.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
References: <831039.51796.qm@web110001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<200901191616.54093.elmonogrande@gmail.com>
	<200901200812.08627.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <200901200619.26286.elmonogrande@gmail.com>

On Tuesday 20 January 2009, Guenther Meyer wrote:
> usually the ssid is shown as label of the wlan poi, if available.

hehheh...so what you are saying is that I probably should have checked 
the "Label" box next to the WLAN POI-Filter in order to see the SSIDs on the 
map ;-)

Anyway, I really like the vertical layout of the tabs in the settings dialog 
box. It flows better than the horizontal did. Now it's time to "drive".

Thanks for all the help.

-alex

From hamish_b at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 22 13:48:58 2009
From: hamish_b at yahoo.com (Hamish)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:48:58 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] SVN: gpsdrive:[2288]
	trunk/data/maps/update_svn_revision.sh
Message-ID: <20090123114854.7657e9e1.hamish_b@yahoo.com>

Hi,

it would be nice if some SVN keyword somewhere could be used to add the
revision number for the build to the end of the version number in the titlebar. e.g. "GpsDrive v2.10pre7.svn2288"


$ gpsdrive --version    already has the $Id$ keyword built in.


possible?


Hamish

From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Thu Jan 22 21:52:49 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 06:52:49 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] SVN: gpsdrive:[2288]
	trunk/data/maps/update_svn_revision.sh
In-Reply-To: <20090123114854.7657e9e1.hamish_b@yahoo.com>
References: <20090123114854.7657e9e1.hamish_b@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901230752.50718.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Donnerstag 22 Januar 2009 schrieb Hamish:
> Hi,
>
> it would be nice if some SVN keyword somewhere could be used to add the
> revision number for the build to the end of the version number in the
> titlebar. e.g. "GpsDrive v2.10pre7.svn2288"
>
possible.

but it has to be done uisng svnrevision (included in cmake somehow...)

because this one
> $ gpsdrive --version    already has the $Id$ keyword built in.
>
only shows the revision of the file gpsdrive.c


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From gpsdrive at ostertag.name  Sun Jan 25 00:27:21 2009
From: gpsdrive at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany))
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:27:21 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] linker error "undefined reference to
	`db_postgis_query_street'"
Message-ID: <200901251027.12919.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>

What happened?

Linking CXX executable gpsdrive
CMakeFiles/gpsdrive.dir/database.o: In function `db_streets_get':
database.c:(.text+0x4e3): 	
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [src/gpsdrive] Error 1
make[1]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/gpsdrive.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2

-- 

J?rg (Germany, Tettnang)

http://www.ostertag.name/

From hamish_b at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 26 12:39:24 2009
From: hamish_b at yahoo.com (Hamish)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:39:24 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] improvement to debian build rules
Message-ID: <20090127103920.e9eedddd.hamish_b@yahoo.com>

Hi,

for rev 2289 ("Only use GDA3 if available on the system") I think the
test is broken?

for one thing apt-cache tells you if the package is available in the
distribution, not if it is installed on the system. for another thing I
am not sure the if/then statement acts as expected- it always tests as
true AFAICT.

+	if apt-cache search libgda3-dev | grep -q libgda3-dev ; echo $? ; then \
+	      cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release \
 		-DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr \
...
+		-D WITH_GDA3:BOOL=OFF \

I am not totally convinced that this sort of helpful automation is
actually worth it, but.....


perhaps better:

    if dpkg -l libgda3-dev > /dev/null ; then
       echo "have GDA3-dev"
    else
       echo "do not have GDA3-dev"
    fi


also better would be to somehow follow the setting in
DefineOptions.cmake instead of deciding based on what is
installed (for users with the libgda3-dev package installed
who do not want it in the build).


In the past I have used -DWITH_GDA3=OFF there, is
"-D WITH_GDA3:BOOL=OFF" better?



Hamish

From gpsdrive at ostertag.name  Mon Jan 26 13:14:21 2009
From: gpsdrive at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany))
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:14:21 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] improvement to debian build rules
In-Reply-To: <20090127103920.e9eedddd.hamish_b@yahoo.com>
References: <20090127103920.e9eedddd.hamish_b@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901262314.13506.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>

It was on intention to exclude on availability on the platform and not on 
installed package.
I first thought of phrasing it different: 
	if debian-etch; then 
		exclude some stuff
	fi
but couldn't find a way to easily decide which revision I have and if it's 
debian or ubuntu. So the closest was to ask if the system can install 
gda3-dev. I even thought about putting this part into a seperate shell 
script. ANd yes it works at least on debian-etch vs. Debian-lenny here on the 
build-cluster.

Joerg



On Montag 26 Januar 2009, Hamish wrote:
> Hi,
>
> for rev 2289 ("Only use GDA3 if available on the system") I think the
> test is broken?
>
> for one thing apt-cache tells you if the package is available in the
> distribution, not if it is installed on the system. for another thing I
> am not sure the if/then statement acts as expected- it always tests as
> true AFAICT.
>
> +	if apt-cache search libgda3-dev | grep -q libgda3-dev ; echo $? ; then \
> +	      cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release \
>  		-DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr \
> ...
> +		-D WITH_GDA3:BOOL=OFF \
>
> I am not totally convinced that this sort of helpful automation is
> actually worth it, but.....
>
>
> perhaps better:
>
>     if dpkg -l libgda3-dev > /dev/null ; then
>        echo "have GDA3-dev"
>     else
>        echo "do not have GDA3-dev"
>     fi
>
>
> also better would be to somehow follow the setting in
> DefineOptions.cmake instead of deciding based on what is
> installed (for users with the libgda3-dev package installed
> who do not want it in the build).


From hamish_b at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 26 13:21:15 2009
From: hamish_b at yahoo.com (Hamish)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:21:15 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] improvement to debian build rules
In-Reply-To: <20090127103920.e9eedddd.hamish_b@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <837857.47920.qm@web110014.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hamish:
> perhaps better:
> 
>     if dpkg -l libgda3-dev > /dev/null ; then
>        echo "have GDA3-dev"
>     else
>        echo "do not have GDA3-dev"
>     fi

umm, sorry that's broken, perhaps:

if [ `dpkg -l libgda2-dev 2> /dev/null | grep -c '^ii'` -ne 0 ] ; then


 
> also better would be to somehow follow the setting in
> DefineOptions.cmake instead of deciding based on what is
> installed (for users with the libgda3-dev package installed
> who do not want it in the build).

actually I think it does that already, you just have to be sure to
remove build/CMakeCache.txt and run 'debuild clean' after changing
DefineOptions.cmake. (just tested, I'm running etch so no libgda3-dev ii)

so simply this in debian/rules would be fine:

        cd build; cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release \
                -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr \
                -DMAN_INSTALL_DIR=/usr/share/man \
                -DINFO_INSTALL_DIR=/usr/share/info \
                -DDATADIR=/usr/share \
                ..


Hamish



      


From hamish_b at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 26 13:47:06 2009
From: hamish_b at yahoo.com (Hamish)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:47:06 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] improvement to debian build rules
In-Reply-To: <200901262314.13506.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
Message-ID: <855766.49929.qm@web110007.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Joerg wrote:
> It was on intention to exclude on availability on the
> platform and not on installed package.
>
> I first thought of phrasing it different: 
> 	if debian-etch; then 
> 		exclude some stuff
> 	fi
> but couldn't find a way to easily decide which revision I have and if
> it's debian or ubuntu. So the closest was to ask if the system can
> install gda3-dev.

ah, ok.

but I think it's a bit of a moot point- debian/control build-depends
on libgda3-dev unless you have patched it somehow based on the distro.
So it should abort before it starts based on the missing -dev package.

And if you have patched debian/control somehow I think it is much better
to also patch DefineOptions.cmake at the same time, not do tricky tests
in debian/rules.


what's ubuntu's equivalent of /etc/debian_version ?

if [ -e /etc/debian_version ] ; then 
  # is debian
  if [ `cat /etc/debian_version` = "4.0" ] ; then
    echo "is etch"
  fi
else
  ubuntu...
fi


> I even thought about putting this part into a seperate shell script.
> ANd yes it works at least on debian-etch vs. Debian-lenny here on the
> build-cluster.

SVN:
  if apt-cache search libgda3-dev | grep -q libgda3-dev ; echo $? ; then

AFAICT the if/then test is based on the exit status of the last result:
'echo $?' always returns with exit status 0 regardless of what is printed
to stdout by it.


Hamish



      


From gpsdrive at ostertag.name  Mon Jan 26 21:28:18 2009
From: gpsdrive at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany))
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:28:18 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] improvement to debian build rules
In-Reply-To: <855766.49929.qm@web110007.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <855766.49929.qm@web110007.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901270728.09617.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>

On Montag 26 Januar 2009, Hamish wrote:
> Joerg wrote:
> > It was on intention to exclude on availability on the
> > platform and not on installed package.
> >
> > I first thought of phrasing it different:
> > 	if debian-etch; then
> > 		exclude some stuff
> > 	fi
> > but couldn't find a way to easily decide which revision I have and if
> > it's debian or ubuntu. So the closest was to ask if the system can
> > install gda3-dev.
>
> ah, ok.
>
> but I think it's a bit of a moot point- debian/control build-depends
> on libgda3-dev unless you have patched it somehow based on the distro.

Yes I did up to now. But I think I should change this and put a patchfile in 
the debian directory to do these changes ...

> So it should abort before it starts based on the missing -dev package.

Because the build-cliuster script removes the gda3 line it didn't abort.

> And if you have patched debian/control somehow I think it is much better
> to also patch DefineOptions.cmake at the same time, not do tricky tests
> in debian/rules.

Definiteley.


> what's ubuntu's equivalent of /etc/debian_version ?
>
> if [ -e /etc/debian_version ] ; then
>   # is debian
>   if [ `cat /etc/debian_version` = "4.0" ] ; then
>     echo "is etch"
>   fi
> else
>   ubuntu...
> fi

That was my first guess, but the ubuntu here also has a /etc/debian_version 
File :-(

	debian-etch-32: 4.0
	debian-lenny-32: 5.0
	ubuntu-intrepid-32: lenny/sid
	ubuntu-dapper-32: testing/unstable

> > I even thought about putting this part into a seperate shell script.
> > ANd yes it works at least on debian-etch vs. Debian-lenny here on the
> > build-cluster.
>
> SVN:
>   if apt-cache search libgda3-dev | grep -q libgda3-dev ; echo $? ; then
>
> AFAICT the if/then test is based on the exit status of the last result:
> 'echo $?' always returns with exit status 0 regardless of what is printed
> to stdout by it.

This was the reason for the grep -q libgda and the echo $? is a cut'n past 
error :-(


I now removed the hack ad put some patchfiles aside the rules and control 
files. Should be a lot better :-)



-- 

J?rg (Germany, Tettnang)

http://www.ostertag.name/

From gpsdrive at ostertag.name  Mon Jan 26 21:35:29 2009
From: gpsdrive at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany))
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:35:29 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Compile Error "undefined reference to
	`db_postgis_query_street'"
Message-ID: <200901270735.26114.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>


Anyone any Idea when this came in?

[ 98%] Building C object src/CMakeFiles/gpsdrive.dir/navigation_gui.o
Linking CXX executable gpsdrive
CMakeFiles/gpsdrive.dir/database.o: In function `db_streets_get':
database.c:(.text+0x4e3): undefined reference to `db_postgis_query_street'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** [src/gpsdrive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/tweety/gpsdrive-svn/build'
make[2]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/gpsdrive.dir/all] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/tweety/gpsdrive-svn/build'
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tweety/gpsdrive-svn/build'
make: *** [build/build-stamp] Error 2

-- 

J?rg (Germany, Tettnang)

http://www.ostertag.name/

From gpsdrive at ostertag.name  Mon Jan 26 21:56:22 2009
From: gpsdrive at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany))
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:56:22 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] error in compile with speech set to off
Message-ID: <200901270756.16340.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>

Now I added the debian-etch-32.patch script and tried again for debian 
Etch-32, but I'm now getting errors if I try with Speech stuff set to OFF



/home/tweety/gpsdrive-svn/src/speech.c: In function 'speech_set_module':
/home/tweety/gpsdrive-svn/src/speech.c:218: error: 'SPDVoice' undeclared 
(first use in this function)
/home/tweety/gpsdrive-svn/src/speech.c:218: error: (Each undeclared identifier 
is reported only once
/home/tweety/gpsdrive-svn/src/speech.c:218: error: for each function it 
appears in.)
/home/tweety/gpsdrive-svn/src/speech.c:218: error: 't_buf' undeclared (first 
use in this function)
/home/tweety/gpsdrive-svn/src/speech.c: In function 'speech_init':
/home/tweety/gpsdrive-svn/src/speech.c:290: warning: assignment makes pointer 
from integer without a cast
make[3]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/gpsdrive.dir/speech.o] Error 1

-- 

J?rg (Germany, Tettnang)

http://www.ostertag.name/

From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Tue Jan 27 00:28:26 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:28:26 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Compile Error "undefined reference to
	`db_postgis_query_street'"
In-Reply-To: <200901270735.26114.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
References: <200901270735.26114.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
Message-ID: <200901271028.32201.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Dienstag 27 Januar 2009 schrieb Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany):
> Anyone any Idea when this came in?
>
> [ 98%] Building C object src/CMakeFiles/gpsdrive.dir/navigation_gui.o
> Linking CXX executable gpsdrive
> CMakeFiles/gpsdrive.dir/database.o: In function `db_streets_get':
> database.c:(.text+0x4e3): undefined reference to `db_postgis_query_street'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> make[3]: *** [src/gpsdrive] Error 1
> make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/tweety/gpsdrive-svn/build'
> make[2]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/gpsdrive.dir/all] Error 2
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/tweety/gpsdrive-svn/build'
> make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tweety/gpsdrive-svn/build'
> make: *** [build/build-stamp] Error 2

should be fixed in svn rev2294.

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From d.s.e at sordidmusic.com  Tue Jan 27 00:28:26 2009
From: d.s.e at sordidmusic.com (Guenther Meyer)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:28:26 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] error in compile with speech set to off
In-Reply-To: <200901270756.16340.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
References: <200901270756.16340.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
Message-ID: <200901271022.59059.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>

Am Dienstag 27 Januar 2009 schrieb Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany):
> Now I added the debian-etch-32.patch script and tried again for debian
> Etch-32, but I'm now getting errors if I try with Speech stuff set to OFF
>
did you use cmake with the -DWITH_SPEECH=OFF option?
works without problems here...



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From gpsdrive at ostertag.name  Tue Jan 27 12:06:38 2009
From: gpsdrive at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany))
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:06:38 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] error in compile with speech set to off
In-Reply-To: <200901271022.59059.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
References: <200901270756.16340.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
	<200901271022.59059.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <200901272206.30958.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>

On Dienstag 27 Januar 2009, Guenther Meyer wrote:
> Am Dienstag 27 Januar 2009 schrieb Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive 
Tettnang/Germany):
> > Now I added the debian-etch-32.patch script and tried again for debian
> > Etch-32, but I'm now getting errors if I try with Speech stuff set to OFF
>
> did you use cmake with the -DWITH_SPEECH=OFF option?
> works without problems here...

I had 

+             -DWITH_SPEECH:BOOL=ON \

in the patch ;-)


-- 

J?rg (Germany, Tettnang)

http://www.ostertag.name/

From gpsdrive at ostertag.name  Tue Jan 27 12:10:18 2009
From: gpsdrive at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany))
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:10:18 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Compile Error "boost/filesystem.hpp" not found
In-Reply-To: <200901271028.32201.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
References: <200901270735.26114.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
	<200901271028.32201.d.s.e@sordidmusic.com>
Message-ID: <200901272210.14946.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>

...
> should be fixed in svn rev2294.

Thanks, this works now ...

on debian etch I' now facing the next strange thing ...

[ 91%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/gpsdrive.dir/mapnik.o
/home/tweety/gpsdrive-svn/src/mapnik.cpp:11:32: error: boost/filesystem.hpp: No such file or directory
/home/tweety/gpsdrive-svn/src/mapnik.cpp: In function 'void mapnik::add_current_tile_to_cache()':
/home/tweety/gpsdrive-svn/src/mapnik.cpp:122: error: 'boost::filesystem' has not been declared

But I thought I'd have boost-filesystem-dev installed ...

i   libboost-filesystem-dev                                            - filesystem operations (portable paths, iteration over directories, etc) in C+
i A libboost-filesystem1.33.1                                          - filesystem operations (portable paths, iteration over directories, etc) in C+

or is this one too old?


-- 

J?rg (Germany, Tettnang)

http://www.ostertag.name/

From hamish_b at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 27 13:49:42 2009
From: hamish_b at yahoo.com (Hamish)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:49:42 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] error in compile with speech set to off
In-Reply-To: <200901272206.30958.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
Message-ID: <825770.31335.qm@web110007.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

> > > Now I added the debian-etch-32.patch script and tried again for
> > > debian Etch-32, but I'm now getting errors if I try with Speech
> > > stuff set to OFF

perhaps patch DefineOptions.cmake too/instead,


Hamish



      


From hamish_b at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 27 14:39:38 2009
From: hamish_b at yahoo.com (Hamish)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:39:38 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Compile Error "boost/filesystem.hpp" not found
In-Reply-To: <200901272210.14946.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
Message-ID: <109396.18067.qm@web110006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Joerg Ostertag wrote:
> on debian etch I' now facing the next strange thing ...

FWIW, on a real debian/etch the latest gpsdrive SVN 'debuild binary's
ok for me.
(mapnik, gda3, speechd, = OFF   so this Mapnik code #ifdef'd away)


> [ 91%] Building CXX object
> src/CMakeFiles/gpsdrive.dir/mapnik.o
> /home/tweety/gpsdrive-svn/src/mapnik.cpp:11:32: error:
> boost/filesystem.hpp: No such file or directory

etch$ apt-file search boost/filesystem.hpp
etch$ 

.... so file not available in any pacakge.


> /home/tweety/gpsdrive-svn/src/mapnik.cpp: In function
> 'void mapnik::add_current_tile_to_cache()':
> /home/tweety/gpsdrive-svn/src/mapnik.cpp:122: error:
> 'boost::filesystem' has not been declared
> 
> But I thought I'd have boost-filesystem-dev installed

funny, the boost-filesystem-dev package in etch only contains three
/usr/share/doc/ files (README.Debian, changelog.Debian, copyright),
other than those it is empty..

etch$ dpkg -S boost-filesystem-dev | grep -v -w doc
etch$ 


> or is this one too old?

there is no Mapnik package in official Etch, you have to manually install
0.5.1 from backports.org if you want it.


Hamish



      


From hamish_b at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 27 14:42:15 2009
From: hamish_b at yahoo.com (Hamish)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:42:15 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] improvement to debian build rules
In-Reply-To: <200901270728.09617.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>
Message-ID: <128010.12702.qm@web110012.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

> > what's ubuntu's equivalent of /etc/debian_version ?
> >
> > if [ -e /etc/debian_version ] ; then
> >   # is debian
> >   if [ `cat /etc/debian_version` = "4.0" ] ; then
> >     echo "is etch"
> >   fi
> > else
> >   ubuntu...
> > fi
> 
> That was my first guess, but the ubuntu here also has a
> /etc/debian_version File :-(
> 
> 	debian-etch-32: 4.0
> 	debian-lenny-32: 5.0
> 	ubuntu-intrepid-32: lenny/sid
> 	ubuntu-dapper-32: testing/unstable

is there a /etc/ubuntu_version file we could test for first?


Hamish



      


From gpsdrive at ostertag.name  Tue Jan 27 21:09:51 2009
From: gpsdrive at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany))
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:09:51 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] improvement to debian build rules
In-Reply-To: <128010.12702.qm@web110012.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <128010.12702.qm@web110012.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901280709.42042.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>

On Mittwoch 28 Januar 2009, Hamish wrote:
> > > what's ubuntu's equivalent of /etc/debian_version ?
> > >
> > > if [ -e /etc/debian_version ] ; then
> > >   # is debian
> > >   if [ `cat /etc/debian_version` = "4.0" ] ; then
> > >     echo "is etch"
> > >   fi
> > > else
> > >   ubuntu...
> > > fi
> >
> > That was my first guess, but the ubuntu here also has a
> > /etc/debian_version File :-(
> >
> > 	debian-etch-32: 4.0
> > 	debian-lenny-32: 5.0
> > 	ubuntu-intrepid-32: lenny/sid
> > 	ubuntu-dapper-32: testing/unstable
>
> is there a /etc/ubuntu_version file we could test for first?

For now I do it different; i placed a patch file in the debian directory where 
we can directly control what we want to integrate and which features we want 
to disable.


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From gpsdrive at ostertag.name  Tue Jan 27 21:17:45 2009
From: gpsdrive at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany))
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:17:45 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] improvement to debian build rules
In-Reply-To: <128010.12702.qm@web110012.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <128010.12702.qm@web110012.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901280717.42335.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>

On Mittwoch 28 Januar 2009, Hamish wrote:
> > > what's ubuntu's equivalent of /etc/debian_version ?
> > >
> > > if [ -e /etc/debian_version ] ; then
> > >   # is debian
> > >   if [ `cat /etc/debian_version` = "4.0" ] ; then
> > >     echo "is etch"
> > >   fi
> > > else
> > >   ubuntu...
> > > fi
> >
> > That was my first guess, but the ubuntu here also has a
> > /etc/debian_version File :-(
> >
> > 	debian-etch-32: 4.0
> > 	debian-lenny-32: 5.0
> > 	ubuntu-intrepid-32: lenny/sid
> > 	ubuntu-dapper-32: testing/unstable
>
> is there a /etc/ubuntu_version file we could test for first?
>

I'd say:
	/etc/lsb-release:DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
	/etc/lsb-release:DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 8.10"

Or even:
	/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid main restricted multiverse universe


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From gpsdrive at ostertag.name  Tue Jan 27 21:44:28 2009
From: gpsdrive at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany))
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:44:28 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] Compile Error "boost/filesystem.hpp" not found
In-Reply-To: <109396.18067.qm@web110006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <109396.18067.qm@web110006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901280744.24828.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>

On Mittwoch 28 Januar 2009, Hamish wrote:
> Joerg Ostertag wrote:
> > on debian etch I' now facing the next strange thing ...
>
> FWIW, on a real debian/etch the latest gpsdrive SVN 'debuild binary's
> ok for me.
> (mapnik, gda3, speechd, = OFF   so this Mapnik code #ifdef'd away)

Since I cannot get the File in etch It might be necessary to disable mapnik too. :-(((

> > [ 91%] Building CXX object
> > src/CMakeFiles/gpsdrive.dir/mapnik.o
> > /home/tweety/gpsdrive-svn/src/mapnik.cpp:11:32: error:
> > boost/filesystem.hpp: No such file or directory
>
> etch$ apt-file search boost/filesystem.hpp
> etch$
>
> .... so file not available in any pacakge.

in debian/lenny I can fnd it. So backports seem incomplete.

I wrote a mail to them ...

> > /home/tweety/gpsdrive-svn/src/mapnik.cpp: In function
> > 'void mapnik::add_current_tile_to_cache()':
> > /home/tweety/gpsdrive-svn/src/mapnik.cpp:122: error:
> > 'boost::filesystem' has not been declared
> >
> > But I thought I'd have boost-filesystem-dev installed
>
> funny, the boost-filesystem-dev package in etch only contains three
> /usr/share/doc/ files (README.Debian, changelog.Debian, copyright),
> other than those it is empty..
>
> etch$ dpkg -S boost-filesystem-dev | grep -v -w doc
> etch$
>
> > or is this one too old?
>
> there is no Mapnik package in official Etch, you have to manually install
> 0.5.1 from backports.org if you want it.

Yes I did:
aptitude search mapnik
i   libmapnik-dev                                                 - C++/Python toolkit for developing GIS applications (devel)              
i A libmapnik0.5                                                  - C++/Python toolkit for developing GIS applications (libraries)          



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From gpsdrive at ostertag.name  Tue Jan 27 21:46:12 2009
From: gpsdrive at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany))
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:46:12 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] error in compile with speech set to off
In-Reply-To: <825770.31335.qm@web110007.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <825770.31335.qm@web110007.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901280746.08967.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>

On Dienstag 27 Januar 2009, Hamish wrote:
> > > > Now I added the debian-etch-32.patch script and tried again for
> > > > debian Etch-32, but I'm now getting errors if I try with Speech
> > > > stuff set to OFF
>
> perhaps patch DefineOptions.cmake too/instead,

Do you think of modifying the recognition of  the speech library?

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From hamish_b at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 28 12:15:02 2009
From: hamish_b at yahoo.com (Hamish)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:15:02 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] [GpsDrive-svn] SF.net SVN: gpsdrive:[2296]
 trunk/debian/changelog
Message-ID: <20090129101458.d5c69b39.hamish_b@yahoo.com>

Hi,

I am curious:

-gpsdrive (2.10svn20139192) unstable; urgency=low
+gpsdrive (2.10svn229513422) unstable; urgency=low

I see the "svn2295" is the rev number, but what does the "13422" stand
for?


Also, (it doesn't really matter, but..) it was my understanding that the
debian/changelog was for packaging changes & major change synopsis, not
all svn changes. A separate ChangeLog.gz could be created at release time:

o Create Changelog file on release branch:
 # http://ch.tudelft.nl/~arthur/svn2cl/
 svn2cl
 mv ChangeLog ChangeLog_$VERSION
 head ChangeLog_$VERSION
 gzip ChangeLog_$VERSION

[borrowed from
 http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/browser/grass/trunk/doc/howto_release.txt]


?
Hamish



From gpsdrive at ostertag.name  Wed Jan 28 13:19:58 2009
From: gpsdrive at ostertag.name (Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany))
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:19:58 -0000
Subject: [ gpsdrive ] [GpsDrive-svn] SF.net SVN: gpsdrive:[2296]
	trunk/debian/changelog
In-Reply-To: <20090129101458.d5c69b39.hamish_b@yahoo.com>
References: <20090129101458.d5c69b39.hamish_b@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901282319.52995.gpsdrive@ostertag.name>

On Mittwoch 28 Januar 2009, Hamish wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am curious:
>
> -gpsdrive (2.10svn20139192) unstable; urgency=low
> +gpsdrive (2.10svn229513422) unstable; urgency=low
>
> I see the "svn2295" is the rev number, but what does the "13422" stand
> for?

First is the gpsdrive-svn second is the imported osm-svn


> Also, (it doesn't really matter, but..) it was my understanding that the
> debian/changelog was for packaging changes & major change synopsis, not
> all svn changes. 

Well, since I do a build for (almost) every new svn revision I needed a change 
in the changelog anyhow. So I decided te create the changelog from svn-log 
each time I do a new package.


> A separate ChangeLog.gz could be created at release time: 

At Releasetime we can compress the existing Changelog and create a smaller one 
from this one.


> o Create Changelog file on release branch:
>  # http://ch.tudelft.nl/~arthur/svn2cl/
>  svn2cl

I wrote something myself, but it probably does something similar ...


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J?rg (Germany, Tettnang)

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